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      • Wizzcat
        because feat. is arguably more common than featuring
      • 2012-06-22 17438, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        I already added the RG and dind't think there was going to be no tracklist.
      • 2012-06-22 17440, 2012

      • Wizzcat
        and takes less sapce
      • 2012-06-22 17443, 2012

      • Wizzcat
        space
      • 2012-06-22 17409, 2012

      • CatCat
        that's.. not really a good reason thoguh. if it is on the cover with "featuring"
      • 2012-06-22 17420, 2012

      • CatCat
        ten... shouldn't we use "featuring"?
      • 2012-06-22 17431, 2012

      • Wizzcat
        it's not like there's any difference
      • 2012-06-22 17431, 2012

      • CatCat
        (note I am not trying to start somerthing, i am simply asking)
      • 2012-06-22 17415, 2012

      • CatCat
        same with vol and volume actually@
      • 2012-06-22 17449, 2012

      • CatCat
        I've always thoguht it weird that always expand. and ho "if it's swedish hen it's volym" and if it s so and so it gets volumen, volym etc
      • 2012-06-22 17402, 2012

      • CatCat
        hva heter det på norks igjen
      • 2012-06-22 17404, 2012

      • CatCat
        norks
      • 2012-06-22 17408, 2012

      • CatCat
        norsk
      • 2012-06-22 17429, 2012

      • Wizzcat
        it's volum in norsk too
      • 2012-06-22 17446, 2012

      • CatCat
        yes
      • 2012-06-22 17451, 2012

      • CatCat
        volum, not volume
      • 2012-06-22 17414, 2012

      • Wizzcat
        true
      • 2012-06-22 17420, 2012

      • CatCat
        but how t oknow the releases meant volum or volume in norsk? it might go either way with soem artists
      • 2012-06-22 17447, 2012

      • CatCat
        i mean if several rel-releases get it strange
      • 2012-06-22 17452, 2012

      • CatCat
        thne it shoudl be standardised
      • 2012-06-22 17418, 2012

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      • Wizzcat
        CatCat: well I'd say it depends if the title is norsk or not
      • 2012-06-22 17417, 2012

      • CatCat
        ja jøss, men du vet noen er sånn "ladedida norsk title, volume seven!"
      • 2012-06-22 17453, 2012

      • Wizzcat
        jeg velger å ikke tenke på slike problem ;)
      • 2012-06-22 17418, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        well since there are no options on that I'm guessing I better remove the RG
      • 2012-06-22 17421, 2012

      • CatCat
        so unles it is clearly stated to be volume or volym or whatever. thne i think probably having it as on cover.. for the release title
      • 2012-06-22 17430, 2012

      • CatCat
        but the release group alwaysstandardised i'd say
      • 2012-06-22 17401, 2012

      • SultS
        tri_marianaaf: searching, but haven’t found no tracklist for If the Stars… yet :)
      • 2012-06-22 17433, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        SultS : thanks :) yes, I've been trying for the last 15 minutes or so
      • 2012-06-22 17406, 2012

      • SultS
        but you could add the itunes version for Morceau Subrosa at least (if you haven’t already)
      • 2012-06-22 17417, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        already have
      • 2012-06-22 17426, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18074266 - will keep on searching
      • 2012-06-22 17432, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        nex week though
      • 2012-06-22 17430, 2012

      • SultS
        aren’t empty release groups now removed automatically?
      • 2012-06-22 17458, 2012

      • CatCat
        Wizzcat: apropos.. hadde du hørt om Dr Seuss før liksom.. jeg vet ikke nå?
      • 2012-06-22 17413, 2012

      • reosarevok
        SultS: not yet I think
      • 2012-06-22 17419, 2012

      • CatCat
        so mde lager alle n filmer med horton og hvem og lorax og katten i støvlene
      • 2012-06-22 17420, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I think it releases next week
      • 2012-06-22 17428, 2012

      • SultS
        ah, ok then :)
      • 2012-06-22 17427, 2012

      • CatCat
        det er hvist en stor greie i statene men jeg hadde ike hørt om det/han? før 3 år siden og sånt
      • 2012-06-22 17415, 2012

      • Wizzcat
        CatCat: hadde hørt om han ja, uten at jeg har lest noen av bøkene
      • 2012-06-22 17422, 2012

      • CatCat
        dr seuss.. feels so weird to me, becasue ot all? americans it's like.. "common childhood knowledge" but to this norwegian dude that is me it's liek "lol what's this new thing"
      • 2012-06-22 17423, 2012

      • Wizzcat
        veldig populære barnebøker
      • 2012-06-22 17429, 2012

      • CatCat
        tydligvis
      • 2012-06-22 17453, 2012

      • CatCat
        men jeg føler at jg får det in med feil ende så og si
      • 2012-06-22 17435, 2012

      • CatCat
        how is msuic soundtrack thing guidelines btw, is it stil composer?
      • 2012-06-22 17446, 2012

      • CatCat
      • 2012-06-22 17452, 2012

      • CatCat
      • 2012-06-22 17400, 2012

      • CatCat
        shoudl it be moved to composer or what i don't know
      • 2012-06-22 17439, 2012

      • CatCat
        btw Wizzcat ville likt dsin imput på http://musicbrainz.org/edit/17958565
      • 2012-06-22 17443, 2012

      • CatCat
        likt din*
      • 2012-06-22 17454, 2012

      • CatCat
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      • Wizzcat
        there's an RFC for soundtrack, you should check there
      • 2012-06-22 17442, 2012

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      • CatCat
        ehhhh..
      • 2012-06-22 17423, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        SultS: I'm not sure. so should I cancel the remove edit so there's no failed edit?
      • 2012-06-22 17419, 2012

      • SultS
        tri_marianaaf: I don’t think there’s not right or wrong way here… I just think that maybe it’s not worth removing the RG if the tracklist appears sometime next week… but the edit shouldn’t fail without votes
      • 2012-06-22 17422, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        but if it removed automatically the edit will fail, right?
      • 2012-06-22 17425, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        another doubt: http://www.amazon.com/The-Love-feat-Alexis-Jones/… would you guys credit the producer? it's on the cover rapper big pooh x illmind featuring alexis jones
      • 2012-06-22 17419, 2012

      • hawke_1
        tri_marianaaf: There’s nothing wrong with a failed edit, really.
      • 2012-06-22 17435, 2012

      • SultS
        tri_marianaaf: I would guess automatic removal would not affect release groups that has open edits releated to it
      • 2012-06-22 17454, 2012

      • SultS
        and that too what hawke_ said
      • 2012-06-22 17400, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Both hawke_1 and (probably) SultS are right, yeah
      • 2012-06-22 17418, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And I would probably use Rapper x Producer feat. Guest there
      • 2012-06-22 17420, 2012

      • MJ
        CatCat: I have that with Norwegian culture..
      • 2012-06-22 17444, 2012

      • MJ
        Kardamommeby? Va er det?
      • 2012-06-22 17438, 2012

      • derr84
        Do Fingerprints recognize different mastering?
      • 2012-06-22 17444, 2012

      • MJ
        I don't even spell it correctly...
      • 2012-06-22 17455, 2012

      • hawke_1
        derr84: Usually not
      • 2012-06-22 17403, 2012

      • hawke_1
        derr84: If the remaster is actually a remix, then sometimes.
      • 2012-06-22 17420, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        ok thank you all
      • 2012-06-22 17456, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        and will credit the producer, since it's on the cover (on the other doubt)
      • 2012-06-22 17440, 2012

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      • kepstin-work
        derr84: usually 'remasters' don't really have very much difference at all; mostly just volume changes. The acoustid algorithm is designed to filter that kind of minor difference out, so that different encodes of the same track (e.g. low quality mp3 vs. flac) will match the same.
      • 2012-06-22 17436, 2012

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      • adhawkins
        Anyone know if there have been any issues with the MB users list recently?
      • 2012-06-22 17438, 2012

      • derr84
        kepstin-work: but they may be merged, aren't they?
      • 2012-06-22 17416, 2012

      • hawke_1
        derr84: remasters shouldn’t be merged.
      • 2012-06-22 17430, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Anyone have any ideas how to handle the works for disc two of http://www.discogs.com/Barry-Gray-Space1999-Year-… ?
      • 2012-06-22 17404, 2012

      • hawke_1
        I got started a couple of times, but I can’t figure out how best to proceed.
      • 2012-06-22 17416, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        hmm, in many cases remasters should be merged, imo
      • 2012-06-22 17424, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        simply because you can't tell them apart...
      • 2012-06-22 17441, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        only certain distinctive remasters (e.g. the new beatles remasters) should be separate, imo.
      • 2012-06-22 17459, 2012

      • hawke_1
        kepstin-work: Define “tell them apart” though
      • 2012-06-22 17400, 2012

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      • hawke_1
        kepstin-work: If you can’t hear the change but can see it in a spectogram…
      • 2012-06-22 17450, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        hawke_1: two tracks that aren't credited as "remasters" but have been mastered on two different cds will look different in a spectrogram.
      • 2012-06-22 17404, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Not necessarily
      • 2012-06-22 17423, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        well, less often nowadays, but I have a lot of tracks that are like that.
      • 2012-06-22 17407, 2012

      • hawke_1
        kepstin-work: An MP3 will also look different from a flac in a spectrogram too. My point was just that there is no definite point at which it’s “different enough”
      • 2012-06-22 17420, 2012

      • hawke_1
        And so officially we say “remasters shouldn’t be merged”
      • 2012-06-22 17450, 2012

      • hawke_1
        So anyone have any idea on that Space: 1999 soundtrack?
      • 2012-06-22 17449, 2012

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      • hawke_1
        God damn I wish we had a way to sort by cat. no.
      • 2012-06-22 17418, 2012

      • hawke_1
        by *normalized* cat no that is
      • 2012-06-22 17407, 2012

      • derr84
        sort everything. why not?
      • 2012-06-22 17433, 2012

      • hawke_1
        ?
      • 2012-06-22 17419, 2012

      • hawke_1
        …I’m just trying to find a release on Silva Screen Records. The cat numbers are completely inconsistently formatted: Some are “FILMCD xxx, some are “FILM CD xxx”, some are “FILMCDxxx”
      • 2012-06-22 17412, 2012

      • derr84
        why is every table not sortable? I don't understand. they should be)
      • 2012-06-22 17420, 2012

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      • hawke_1
        I thought it had something to do with the pagination system sucking
      • 2012-06-22 17431, 2012

      • hawke_1 lols at the acoustid-fingerprinter manual
      • 2012-06-22 17427, 2012

      • derr84
        yes. load all table - it should be, too
      • 2012-06-22 17432, 2012

      • reosarevok
        hawke_1: Doesn't the advanced catno: search use normalised cats?
      • 2012-06-22 17451, 2012

      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: I don’t know. I wasn’t trying to search for it.
      • 2012-06-22 17409, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I know
      • 2012-06-22 17414, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Just suggesting it might help
      • 2012-06-22 17415, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2012-06-22 17445, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Also, search results for releases don’t return the cat no.
      • 2012-06-22 17418, 2012

      • hawke_1
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      • hawke_1
        Should the inner tray liner be type: 'spine' since it includes the inner spine?
      • 2012-06-22 17454, 2012

      • hawke_1
        I think I’ll merge to the 1992 release date
      • 2012-06-22 17402, 2012

      • hawke_1
        since Silva Screen was founded in 1986
      • 2012-06-22 17431, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Ah, actually I’ll just delete the silva screen version
      • 2012-06-22 17436, 2012

      • CatCat
        normalised cats
      • 2012-06-22 17438, 2012

      • hawke_1
        wait, no…
      • 2012-06-22 17439, 2012

      • hawke_1
        merge
      • 2012-06-22 17450, 2012

      • hawke_1
        since the original release had 8 tracks
      • 2012-06-22 17457, 2012

      • CatCat
      • 2012-06-22 17437, 2012

      • CatCat
        In am sick of figuring it out, here it is someone do it for me please before i break my face trought the computer http://musicbrainz.org/release/1b23350c-fa14-4ce5…
      • 2012-06-22 17422, 2012

      • reosarevok
        hawke_1: I meant use the catno:XXXXX option in advanced search
      • 2012-06-22 17435, 2012

      • reosarevok
        CatCat: because wiki links go on release groups?
      • 2012-06-22 17406, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (I mean, I assume that's the issue you're talking about)
      • 2012-06-22 17427, 2012

      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: Yes, but the results list doesn’t say what the cat. nos. on the found releases are
      • 2012-06-22 17433, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh
      • 2012-06-22 17434, 2012

      • reosarevok
        ...
      • 2012-06-22 17437, 2012

      • reosarevok
        That's sad
      • 2012-06-22 17445, 2012

      • hawke_1
        So I still have to go through the list
      • 2012-06-22 17451, 2012

      • hawke_1
        It’s a smaller list, I guess
      • 2012-06-22 17428, 2012

      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: Any idea on whether 'tray' images should be type: spine?
      • 2012-06-22 17442, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hmm
      • 2012-06-22 17447, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I guess not
      • 2012-06-22 17451, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Since you don't see the spine
      • 2012-06-22 17408, 2012

      • hawke_1
        you see the inner spine though
      • 2012-06-22 17414, 2012

      • hawke_1
        the other side of the spine
      • 2012-06-22 17416, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (what people would call a spine, I mean - if you use spine for back of spine, then you should use back for tray :p)
      • 2012-06-22 17430, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (please don't)
      • 2012-06-22 17446, 2012

      • hawke_1
        hehe
      • 2012-06-22 17451, 2012

      • hawke_1
        I don’t/won’t/wouldn’t.
      • 2012-06-22 17415, 2012

      • hawke_1
        but yeah, that’s a good point
      • 2012-06-22 17424, 2012

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      • hawke_1
        Feels strange though to treat the back and the spine as three separate 2-dimensional things but then treat the tray as a single 3-dimensional thing when it’s the same piece of paper
      • 2012-06-22 17453, 2012

      • CatCat
        tray spine
      • 2012-06-22 17402, 2012

      • CatCat
        can we add tray/inlay soon
      • 2012-06-22 17428, 2012

      • hawke_1
        I hope so
      • 2012-06-22 17444, 2012

      • hawke_1
        I want 'liner' first. :-)
      • 2012-06-22 17449, 2012

      • hawke_1
        or 'sleeve'
      • 2012-06-22 17451, 2012

      • CatCat
        what?
      • 2012-06-22 17454, 2012

      • hawke_1
        for records