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      • dubwai
        were are all people?
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        Users on #musicbrainz: Wizzcat_ KingJ timo VxJasonxV DWSR SultS juhae EM3RY demosdemon Sergey_Ivanov Muz luks adrianw bricas noobie mchou pankkake nikki kanzure Synergist czaja vinci Rondom warp Jormangeud frewsxcv yvesr leonardo iarp asmodai rburton ocharles_ sampsyo mat_ nobraina ianweller Munger flamingspinach njh
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        Users on #musicbrainz: Wizzcat_ KingJ timo VxJasonxV DWSR SultS juhae EM3RY nobraina ianweller Munger flamingspinach njh mat_ sampsyo ocharles_ rburton asmodai iarp leonardo yvesr frewsxcv Jormangeud warp Rondom vinci czaja Synergist kanzure nikki pankkake mchou noobie bricas adrianw luks Muz Sergey_Ivanov demosdemon
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      • noobie
        good mornin
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      • pankkake
        hello
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      • pankkake
        http://musicbrainz.org/edit/17587270 I was confused too, and didn't bother finding what was to cancel :p
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      • noobie
        :p
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      • noobie
        i just screwed it^^
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      • noobie
        although it would be nice if two open and countervailing edits would be automatically cancelled
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      • noobie
        s/countervailing/nullifying *
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      • Sekhmetouserapis
        hi, could someone please point me toward the new guideline for artist AR in classical music ? I can't seem to find it
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      • noobie
        is there a special guideline for classical ?
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      • noobie
        pankkake: ?
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      • pankkake
        there is one, but I never read it :p
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      • pankkake
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      • noobie
        Sekhmetouserapis:
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      • noobie
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      • noobie
        nah i did not ask because of that :D
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      • noobie
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      • pankkake
        "Status: This Page is Glorious CSG History!" but yet I can't find an updated version :/
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      • noobie
        bootleg ?
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      • pankkake
        it's a compilation done without the artists consent?
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      • noobie
        well,i guess it was made with the artists consent,but it seems to be a no label release
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      • noobie
        and the dj / compiler is unknown too
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      • pankkake
        that wouldn't make it a bootleg
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      • noobie
        well,it might suggest that it's not completely with the artists cosent
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      • pankkake
        I can't find any info on these compilation, only downloads!
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      • noobie
        yes,that's why i am not sure what to do with it
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      • noobie
        some of them were released at jamendo some years ago but they recently removed it from their site
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      • pankkake
        and no idea if it is a CD rip, or a web release
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      • noobie
        definitely web
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      • pankkake
        oh, well that would settle it, it was an official web release then
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      • pankkake
        unless jamendo got tricked
      • 2012-05-13 13459, 2012

      • pankkake
        is it me or a lot of jamendo releases disappear after some time?
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      • noobie
        yeah i think so
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      • noobie
        the darkpsy section was shrinked to like 5 releases
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      • pankkake
        lol
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      • noobie
        i remember beeing it like 50 or more
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      • noobie
        lol that sentence sucked -.-
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      • noobie
        pf i won't add that series
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      • noobie
        averag bitrate 180 o.O
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      • noobie is listening to Analogik - Stærk Brun Mad from Klunserbeats Live
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      • CatCat
        kepstin-laptop: you've gotta use the "link to this result" link at the bottom, jup
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      • reosarevok
        Sekhmetouserapis, in case nobody has linked it: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Classical
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      • reosarevok
        I don't know what you mean by artist AR though
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      • noobie
        <Error><Code>SlowDown</Code><Message>Please reduce your request rate.</Message><Resource /><RequestId>50a76de8-5e9d-45e9-bb22-2ca53ebfe939</RequestId></Error>
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      • noobie
        again??
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      • warp
        is this going to become a regular thing on sunday? :)
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      • noobie
        :d
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      • nikki
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      • noobie
        did anyone of you try it?
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      • nikki
        yes, me
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      • noobie
        k
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      • nikki
        warp: and if you haven't got anything to do, test is screwed up and ISEing all over the place :P
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      • Sekhmetouserapis
        reosarevok: thanks (and pankkake too, I wasn't in front of my computer when you posted it)
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      • warp
        really?
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      • warp
        nikki: I've just tested my MBS-842 changes, and did not notice anything breaking.
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      • warp
        so, where are you seeing ISEs?
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      • warp
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      • nikki
        I saw them in the search results, artist page, artist aliases page, add artist, add work, add release group
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      • nikki
        they were all something about the transaction being aborted
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      • nikki
        so if you just restarted the server, maybe it's ok for now
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      • nikki
        I can't reproduce them right now...
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      • warp
        I did restart the server, but that was 20 or 30 minutes ago.
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      • nikki
        I hadn't checked until you said you hadn't seen any
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      • nikki
        because earlier it was unusable
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      • dubwai
        why in cover art page, miss size information and only "Types", I think resolution and size will be nice addition, because now i must click image properties
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      • nikki
        http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4702 we even got two tickets (not by me) for it
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      • nikki
        dubwai: presumably because we don't store the size. the images don't pass through our servers so we never have chance to find out
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      • warp
        dubwai: the musicbrainz server doesn't have access to that information.
      • 2012-05-13 13442, 2012

      • dubwai
        ok, but maybe possible to make that musicbrainz server once download image and save this info, and show it later, until image will be replaced
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      • dubwai
        types info stored, so i think my reqeust is possbile
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      • dubwai
        because, for example i download album witch also have full scan, some is better resolution that on mb, some not, and now i must to preview all image manually :-(
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      • warp
        dubwai: we do not want to have the images on the musicbrainz server for copyright reasons.
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      • dubwai
        warp: string "Res: 1280x1280, Size: 434 kb" will be any copyright issues? I just think that to store this info, like info abot type.
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      • dubwai
        not image
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      • warp
        dubwai: yes, but how can we get that info without downloading the image?
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      • dubwai
        download get info and delete :-)
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      • dubwai
        or copyright pigs can and in this find violation of their rights?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        I hope that before the schema change release is made, some updates are done so that compilations and soundtracks aren't cluttering up artist album listings :/
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      • pankkake
        how does coverartarchive solve the copyright issue?
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      • _5moufl
        ^
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      • pankkake
        I wonder how discogs does it, too
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      • kepstin-laptop
        pankkake: it doesn't, really. It just pushes the issue off to the internet archive, who know how to deal with it.
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      • pankkake
        oh, ok :p
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      • reosarevok
        kepstin-laptop: am I seeing a raised hand there? 8)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        reosarevok: is there already a ticket open for that?
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      • reosarevok
        (seriously, I guess it'll be enough work for warp and ocharles to ensure stuff doesn't ship broken)
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      • reosarevok
        I assume it is, nikki?
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      • nikki blinks
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      • nikki
        there isn't a ticket
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      • nikki
        and it's unlikely to be fixed in time
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      • kepstin-laptop
        :/
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      • nikki
        I did propose splitting it into main type and main type + extra types originally
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      • kepstin-laptop
        it's a bit annoying on e.g. http://test.musicbrainz.org/artist/b6c18308-82c7-… because the tags are drawing your attention to releases that are really less interesting.
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      • nikki
        I guess the main problem will be figuring out how we want to display it
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      • nikki
        so if you have any good ideas, it'd help
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      • kepstin-laptop
        I like the main type and main type + extra types idea.
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      • nikki
        what would you call the headings?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        alternately, turning everything marked as a 'compilation' into gray so it's less distracting :)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        "Albums", "Other Albums"? that's not great :/
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      • nikki
        yeah :/
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      • kepstin-laptop
        one option might be to just put the albums without subtypes before the albums with subtypes, with a simple dividing line between them
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      • kepstin-laptop
        Hmm. one thing that might be nice is to pull out all the compilations, soundtracks, etc. into a separate "Compilation", "Soundtrack" section, ignoring the primary type.
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      • reosarevok
        kepstin-laptop, nikki: "albums", and "albums, but..."? :p
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      • kepstin-laptop
        that does make compilation soundtracks tricky tho :)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm, and I'd probably want to keep soundtrack singles with the other singles in typical cases...
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      • kepstin-laptop
        it is just a bit of a mess, eh.
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      • nikki
        hmm. maybe just albums and other albums but don't split single/ep/other
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      • kepstin-laptop
        the 'Filter' tool on the release group list page doesn't let you filter by subtypes right now either - only primary types.
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah
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      • reosarevok
        IMO that's what needs changing, with the list maybe remaining as-is
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      • reosarevok
        Or maybe a two-state switch, "list all albums" vs "separate albums with subtypes"
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      • reosarevok
        Dunno
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      • kepstin-laptop
        I'm still annoyed that various artists releases aren't shown on the same page as single artist releases.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        I would rather have single and various artist releases on one page, with compilations hidden away somewhere.
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      • reosarevok
        huh?
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      • reosarevok
        If the artist's involvement was small enough for it not to get in NGS' multiple AC
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      • reosarevok
        That sounds like barely related at all
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      • reosarevok
        Why should it be in an overview?