#musicbrainz

reosarevok, as is rap

Interestingly, Cambridge doesn't have "choir" as a verb

being a mormon? nsm.

(just as a noun, "a group of people who sing together, especially in a church"

)

I wonder if anyone would really think chorus means choir if we have both options…

" Familiarity information: CHOIR used as a verb is very rare"

anything about chorus?

Not a single use of choir as a verb in the corpus

what texts does the corpus contain?

chorus has all meanings displayed

"

"In the chorus from bar 25 we see a very common scale-based line of root G major"

But also "four pianists, some singers, a small chorus"

And "A chorus of approval"

SultS: "The British National Corpus (BNC) is a 100 million word collection of samples of written and spoken language from a wide range of sources, designed to represent a wide cross-section of current British English, both spoken and written"

it doesn’t make it clear though would people confuse the two, if we had both

More detailed info http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/corpus/index.xml

They would certainly confuse it if we had only chorus

But having both should make it somewhat clear

(I think)

indeed

it would also help to know if they have the same (common?) meaning in american english as well

The problem is also that the translation is non-trivial

yea in norwegian it'd be "kor" kor"

Also, what's exactly the other kind of "chorus" we want to store?

:)

woudl have to be "kor (synger kor)" "kor (synger i et kor)

Is it "chorus" as opposed to "verse"? (sings the part in the song that repeats)?

whnever credit as "chourus" or "kor" liek "is singing chours

nei nå må jeg lage mat også

COCA has multiple uses for chorus as noun

Sure, I just want to know exactly what those credits reference (since most of the chorus credits I've seen are for choirs)

CatCat: do you have an example on youtube or whatever? :)

08:31 < SultS:#musicbrainz> who does *that*? :P

(about rap, hah: "Toasting, chatting, or deejaying is the act of talking or chanting, usually in a monotone melody, over a rhythm or beat by a deejay." vs. "Rapping (also known as emceeing,[1] MCing,[1] spitting (bars),[2] or rhyming[3]) refers to 'spoken or chanted rhyming lyrics' "

in the USA, it is pretty common to call all electronic music "techno"

was more common in the past, before marketing ppl invented "electronica" term

(overlapping but different yay!)

reosarevok, doesn’t verse imply repeating something then?

derwin, I am actally really surprised… but I do bet it has changed a bit in the few years, as trance and similar it much more known there now

but that's the thing, it was just the generic, like kleenex, back at the time before techno and trance split

"When two or more sections of the song have basically identical music and different lyrics, each section is considered one verse" vs. "The element of the song that repeats at least once both musically and lyrically"

(last being the chorus)

SultS for example to me "amphetamine" by drax is "techno"

becuase when I heard it it was "techno"

SultS: I'd bet most people in Spain don't know what trance is

and "trance" didn't really differentiate itself until like 1994

They'd either use "techno" or at most "electronic music"

so even though it sounds like trance, and is trancey

"techno"

in spain most electronic music *is* techno tho.

like, techno techno

reosarevok, it seems wikipedia differentiates verse-chorus from verse…

derwin I gotta listen to this amphetamine

classic choon.

derwin: what I mean is that if I take my non-genre-savvy friends to a dubstep party, they'd probably call it "some techno party"

totally.

haha :P

(also, all this talk of rap and not rap has made me put on my old reggaeton 8tracks for the first time in forever http://8tracks.com/reosarevok/reggaeton-boricua... )

(lol, 60 loves and close to 500 plays? people are mad)

I’ll listen to that

It's a pretty standard early-00s reggaeton playlist

But I guess a lot of non-Hispanic people haven't heard any of it anyway, standard or not...

I have maybe listened to 1 reggeaton track before today, afaik :P the youtube one definetly sounded familiar though

Some people would argue if you have listened to one, all of them will sound familiar :p

also, that Drax track has definetly some trance in it

that indeed sounds like reggaeton

(especially since a good amount of the tracks on that list are Luny Tunes productions, which are pretty much the standard definition of early 00s reggaeton)

("let a dembow riddim go, make something up so it is not *exactly* the same as the other ones")

reosarevok: people who say that probably wouldn't be able to distinguish different eurobeat songs at all.

warp: even I, who can distinguish these, admit having problems with eurobeat

(and with identifying them, too :P)

So yeah, probably right

reosarevok: it's the same problem with euorbeat. a handful of failed italo-disco composers are responsible for the majority of it.

Yeah

I mean, all of these tracks come from a place with a population under 4 million, too

I guess there just aren't that many producers for it :p

Eurobeat doesn't have that excuse :p

(and once reggaeton became more prominent in South America it started mixing more with bachata, merengue, etc and becoming relatively different, to a point that a lot of old fans were like "this ain't my old reggaeton anymore, it's something else")

reosarevok: most eurobeat is afaik not created by japanese people.

oh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Eurobeat

215 volumes? Can anyone survive 2000+ eurobeat songs?

reosarevok: if you look at the labels listed there, at a quick glance they all seem to related to italy in some fashion.

I have clearly lived under a rock…

heh, speak of the devil

There's a "moombahton and baile funk" party tonight here

reosarevok: well, it seems I have about 700 in ~/music/eurobeat, so I'm quite far along already :)

I don't know if I dare go discover Estonians' idea of Brazilian music

haha

I am not sure there really is one…

SultS: well, they managed to write the flyer in broken Portuguese

Which is... kinda creepy

"Moombahton is a fusion genre of house music and reggaeton that was created by American DJ and producer Dave Nada[2] (born David Villeagas) in Washington, D.C., in the fall of 2010.[3] Musically, moombahton is essentially Dutch house or electro house at the tempo of reggaeton (usually 108- 112 beats per minute) with reggaeton influenced drum and percussion elements."

I am not surprised, as broken estonian is quite common here as well, since they are written by russians…

(not saying that this was)

warp: yeah, they're calling it "Thursday of tropical dance music"

"samba tech, moombaton, baile funk, electrolatino"

(but they do so in Portuguese)

haha

Also, SultS: event created by an "Aleksandr Shelepin" so I guess you were right :p

you should go for sure

I just added a release with all new records without works, is there an easy way to make a new work for each recording?

EM3RY, if you can use userscripts, yes

:)

reosarevok: thank you

(but there's still no good way to batch-add relationships to the works in a release once created :( )

oh, right

Still saves a lot of time though

If the artist doesn't have a lot of works, you can use http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/121723 for that

But if it has a long list of works it gets harder

Hopefully our GSoC will produce a good general tool for that

this is goddamn sweet

I have a Miles Davis 2-disc set that's a re-issue of 3 different albums. Individually, the albums are already in the db. I'm not sure how to add this 2-disc set and how to title the album. Here's a liner note scan: http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6394/milesj.jpg

Disc 1 was identified as the original Milestones: http://musicbrainz.org/release/f2fde63a-15b9-38...

Disc 2 isn't identified since it's comprised of 2 different albums.

guysmiley: you should add it as a new release

You can use "add disc" "existing tracklist" to import the other CD1 into it

right, i'm going to add it - but what's the title of the album since it's 3 different albums?

Is "Milestones" right?

I'd call the release just Milestones, but add the titles to disc 1 and disc 2 (there's a disc name field in the tracklist tab)

cool, i can do that. thank you!

Also, I guess I'd title disc 2 as The Musings of Miles / Blue Moods

That's how freedb did it.

not that they're good guidance

Well, I'll take a second coincident opinion even if it comes from freeDB :)

Man, the advanced relationship editor cannot come soon enough

reosarevok: Do you add a disc to a Release Group or a specific Release within?

guysmiley: you start adding a release normally, and when you reach the tracklist tab, you press "Add Disc"

[18:24] reosarevok(last being the chorus)

that's not what the "kor" in my credits are

i mean they might sing ON te chorus, but thry might sing behind the lead in the verse too

So, it's background vocals? :p