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      • foolip_
        ok, I'll just do the escaping manually
      • 2011-06-06 15757, 2011

      • foolip_
        I guess we might do some similar bundling on Windows
      • 2011-06-06 15755, 2011

      • bitmap
        foolip_: yep, py2exe is used on Windows
      • 2011-06-06 15712, 2011

      • Shisma
        so, how to deal with podcasts?
      • 2011-06-06 15714, 2011

      • bitmap
        so I'm assuming the people on the mailing list have the same issue
      • 2011-06-06 15706, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Shisma: for now, I'd copy the tracklist order in the annotation
      • 2011-06-06 15712, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (if you have the times, you can put those too)
      • 2011-06-06 15729, 2011

      • Shisma
        ok, and how do you name them? who is the artist?
      • 2011-06-06 15755, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Oh, that
      • 2011-06-06 15705, 2011

      • Shisma
        can you link to an example?
      • 2011-06-06 15712, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I'd add them as a recording for the DJ-mixer / podcaster / whatever
      • 2011-06-06 15723, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I haven't added any after NGS yet
      • 2011-06-06 15728, 2011

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      • reosarevok
        But yeah, if I was to add a FACT Magazine mix, for example, I'd add that as a recording for the DJ-mixer / compiler… or as a 1-track release with the "other" attribute
      • 2011-06-06 15726, 2011

      • reosarevok
        You *might* use "Compilation", but that's ugly
      • 2011-06-06 15737, 2011

      • Shisma
        ok, i try
      • 2011-06-06 15722, 2011

      • Shisma
        the podcast i want to add was produced by a radiostation
      • 2011-06-06 15734, 2011

      • reosarevok
        heh…
      • 2011-06-06 15752, 2011

      • reosarevok
        nikki, any ideas?
      • 2011-06-06 15701, 2011

      • nikki runs away
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      • nikki
        no :P
      • 2011-06-06 15720, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I imagine you should just add the radio as an artist :(
      • 2011-06-06 15748, 2011

      • nikki
        all the radio stuff I know of has a host that I would file it under
      • 2011-06-06 15752, 2011

      • Shisma
        they put the name of the show intro the mp3 tag
      • 2011-06-06 15759, 2011

      • nikki
        and beyond that, I haven't got a clue what would be best
      • 2011-06-06 15739, 2011

      • reosarevok
        If you know who did the podcast (artist name) use that
      • 2011-06-06 15748, 2011

      • reosarevok
        If not, I'd say use the station / show
      • 2011-06-06 15701, 2011

      • Shisma
        you mean the moderator?
      • 2011-06-06 15718, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Might be
      • 2011-06-06 15724, 2011

      • nikki
        yes
      • 2011-06-06 15735, 2011

      • nikki
        (but that's the german word)
      • 2011-06-06 15717, 2011

      • Shisma
        haha, ok
      • 2011-06-06 15716, 2011

      • Shisma
        can I add the torrent link ti the entry
      • 2011-06-06 15719, 2011

      • Shisma
        ?
      • 2011-06-06 15728, 2011

      • Shisma
        i guess torrent is forbidden
      • 2011-06-06 15732, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Is it a legal torrent? If so, I imagine you could
      • 2011-06-06 15735, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But I don't know
      • 2011-06-06 15743, 2011

      • Shisma
        of course
      • 2011-06-06 15753, 2011

      • Shisma
        it legal
      • 2011-06-06 15753, 2011

      • reosarevok
        If the podcast has a website where they link to the torrent
      • 2011-06-06 15705, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Maybe you could use that instead (so everyone is happy)
      • 2011-06-06 15728, 2011

      • Mineo linked to a torrent at tpb just a few days ago
      • 2011-06-06 15733, 2011

      • Shisma
        the nice thing about torrent is, that it is independent from their website
      • 2011-06-06 15743, 2011

      • luks
        I definitely wouldn't link to tpb
      • 2011-06-06 15709, 2011

      • reosarevok
        luks: not even when uploaded by the artist / program / whatever itself?
      • 2011-06-06 15710, 2011

      • Mineo
        luks: well, the link is also at the artists website
      • 2011-06-06 15730, 2011

      • luks
        out of principle
      • 2011-06-06 15743, 2011

      • luks
        but that's just me
      • 2011-06-06 15750, 2011

      • luks
        I'd vote against such edit though
      • 2011-06-06 15721, 2011

      • luks
        it's only asking for trouble
      • 2011-06-06 15752, 2011

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      • ocharles
        reosarevok: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPVpgWYQFt8&fe… heard about this guy?
      • 2011-06-06 15716, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Nope
      • 2011-06-06 15731, 2011

      • ocharles
        Free! yay
      • 2011-06-06 15733, 2011

      • ocharles
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      • hawke_
        I see no problems with links to legit material on tpb, though if there’s a site more specific to the torrents in question I’d link to that instead.
      • 2011-06-06 15726, 2011

      • Shisma
        bad thing that you can't add a release date to a track
      • 2011-06-06 15757, 2011

      • hawke_
        e.g. the torrents at http://sites.google.com/site/sxswtorrent/ can all be found on tpb as well
      • 2011-06-06 15705, 2011

      • hawke_
        but I’d still link to that site.
      • 2011-06-06 15712, 2011

      • hawke_
        Shisma: I agree.
      • 2011-06-06 15716, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Shisma: yeah, it's been requested, but not here yet
      • 2011-06-06 15723, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (to a recording, rather)
      • 2011-06-06 15746, 2011

      • Shisma
        but a podcast is a non-album-track
      • 2011-06-06 15751, 2011

      • Shisma
        isn't it?
      • 2011-06-06 15721, 2011

      • hawke_
        Shisma: It can be.
      • 2011-06-06 15732, 2011

      • hawke_
        but not always
      • 2011-06-06 15727, 2011

      • Shisma
        but it is not part of a release
      • 2011-06-06 15756, 2011

      • Shisma
        or should I add the name of the podcast as the album?
      • 2011-06-06 15701, 2011

      • Shisma
        that would be cool
      • 2011-06-06 15702, 2011

      • hawke_
        If the music from a podcast is later collected into a release, it could be part of a release.
      • 2011-06-06 15731, 2011

      • hawke_
        Whether the podcast counts as a separate non-album-track release after that, is up for debate.
      • 2011-06-06 15732, 2011

      • Shisma
        it would be easy to add lots of podcasts that way
      • 2011-06-06 15725, 2011

      • foolip_
        bitmap, can you verify if https://gitorious.org/musicbrainz/addrelease/blob… now works on OS X?
      • 2011-06-06 15753, 2011

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      • reosarevok
        lol, FACT magazine in twitter: "Starting up an "if it's got two tracks, it's not an EP" campaign. No sendage, as Blackdown might say."
      • 2011-06-06 15715, 2011

      • Shisma
        I will add the podcast series as a record
      • 2011-06-06 15717, 2011

      • Shisma
        okay?
      • 2011-06-06 15724, 2011

      • nikki
        foolip_: it works for me with picard 0.12 and osx 10.4
      • 2011-06-06 15733, 2011

      • foolip_
        nikki, great, thanks!
      • 2011-06-06 15714, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Shisma: I would add *each* podcast as a 1-track record
      • 2011-06-06 15724, 2011

      • Shisma
        arg
      • 2011-06-06 15727, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But not all of them in one release, unless they were all released in that way
      • 2011-06-06 15750, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (I don't think there's any clear guideline about it though)
      • 2011-06-06 15743, 2011

      • hawke_
        reosarevok: what’s the logic behind that? Just so you can give a release date for each?
      • 2011-06-06 15720, 2011

      • reosarevok
        The logic is that podcasts are usually independent stuff, even if released in a series (at least the podcasts I've seen)
      • 2011-06-06 15731, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I mean, they're put out separately
      • 2011-06-06 15744, 2011

      • hawke_
        What’s the benefit of that vs. non-album tracks / standalone recordings?
      • 2011-06-06 15742, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Oh, that, you mean… yes, release dates, mainly
      • 2011-06-06 15752, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I thought you meant vs. one release for all
      • 2011-06-06 15704, 2011

      • hawke_
        Well, one release for all would have the same problem, of not being able to apply release dates for each.
      • 2011-06-06 15716, 2011

      • hawke_
        So that seems like the worst option in any case
      • 2011-06-06 15703, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Before NGS I was adding 1-track releases always because it was that or non-album tracks
      • 2011-06-06 15716, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Now, I could see us using standalone recordings
      • 2011-06-06 15744, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (especially once we have dates for them)
      • 2011-06-06 15754, 2011

      • foolip_
        voiceinsideyou, did you make that forum post? I've now registered myself.
      • 2011-06-06 15751, 2011

      • hawke_
        Anyone have an opinion on how “[artist] & Friends” should be handled? Separate artist? artist credit to [artist]?
      • 2011-06-06 15719, 2011

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      • pbryan
        What IRC logger is MB using?
      • 2011-06-06 15725, 2011

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      • Leftmost
        Does http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14583323 look right for merging a 2-disc release?
      • 2011-06-06 15725, 2011

      • nikki
        ruaok: pbryan just asked what irc logger we're using
      • 2011-06-06 15707, 2011

      • nikki
        luks: yes
      • 2011-06-06 15708, 2011

      • nikki
        err
      • 2011-06-06 15709, 2011

      • nikki
        Leftmost: yes
      • 2011-06-06 15740, 2011

      • Leftmost
        Alright. So I should just make sure the media are named right when it goes through?
      • 2011-06-06 15755, 2011

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      • ruaok
        pbryan: its called irclogger
      • 2011-06-06 15757, 2011

      • pbryan
        ruaok: Thanks.
      • 2011-06-06 15711, 2011

      • ruaok
        I think we have the source in svn.
      • 2011-06-06 15734, 2011

      • ruaok
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      • Shisma
        is it possible to rename the own folksonomy tags?
      • 2011-06-06 15747, 2011

      • nikki
        you can remove the old ones and add new ones
      • 2011-06-06 15757, 2011

      • nikki
        it's not possible to batch rename though
      • 2011-06-06 15722, 2011

      • Shisma
        :/
      • 2011-06-06 15727, 2011

      • Shisma
        fuck
      • 2011-06-06 15747, 2011

      • Shisma
        wasn't it possible before ngs?
      • 2011-06-06 15751, 2011

      • nikki
        no[e
      • 2011-06-06 15753, 2011

      • nikki
        nope too
      • 2011-06-06 15730, 2011

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      • kepstin-laptop
        I always find it funny when I look at my clock and it says 13:37.
      • 2011-06-06 15716, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop has an idle side-project to write an exherbo package that just downloads the latest picard source from launchpad; probably not particularly useful, but maybe cool.
      • 2011-06-06 15700, 2011

      • luks
        arch/gentoo are too mainstream? :)
      • 2011-06-06 15731, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        yep.
      • 2011-06-06 15736, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        :)
      • 2011-06-06 15746, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        I only have one computer running exherbo, it's kind of a for-fun thing.
      • 2011-06-06 15755, 2011

      • luks
        I'd suggest solaris :P
      • 2011-06-06 15703, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        I work on solaris
      • 2011-06-06 15706, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        now that's /not/ fun.
      • 2011-06-06 15706, 2011

      • luks
        heh
      • 2011-06-06 15719, 2011

      • Shisma
        when there are different recordings from different orchestras, I can name the recordings like this: "Song (Foo-Orchestra)", "Song(Bar-Orchestra 1991)" and "Song(Bar-Orchestra 2009)"
      • 2011-06-06 15729, 2011

      • Shisma
        is it correct?
      • 2011-06-06 15732, 2011

      • luks
        I was using freebsd more recently
      • 2011-06-06 15744, 2011

      • luks
        on one hand I like the simplicity of source-packages
      • 2011-06-06 15745, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        the first thing you end up doing when using solaris is installing all the gnu utilities to replace the junk that's included with it :/
      • 2011-06-06 15750, 2011

      • luks
        but it's a pain to update
      • 2011-06-06 15711, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Shisma: I would add it in the comment, not the name
      • 2011-06-06 15716, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But yes
      • 2011-06-06 15725, 2011

      • Shisma
        thats what i meant
      • 2011-06-06 15732, 2011

      • Shisma
        okay
      • 2011-06-06 15733, 2011

      • Shisma
        thx
      • 2011-06-06 15736, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2011-06-06 15744, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        I love how there's comment fields on releases, recordings, works, etc. now. so useful :)
      • 2011-06-06 15740, 2011

      • Shisma
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      • Shisma
        ?
      • 2011-06-06 15751, 2011

      • Shisma
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      • bitmap
        foolip_: yes, it works for me. :)