#musicbrainz

Aaaand, that's why we need a MusicBrainz player!

or just a little smarter player that doesn't use assume "album title" == "album"

rhythmbox supports the 'albumsort' tag, so I use musicbrainz tagger script to stick the release date and some other info in there for disambiguation.

bitmap: I wonder if those problems that popped up are the same as what some people kept reporting (with picard just stopping loading stuff)

nikki: yeah, I'm wondering that. it's possible those issues still could've surfaced from time to time even with the timers in place

I'm gonna try to investigate that more today :)

Is there any guideline for how to do a collaboration when there is just a list of artists separated by line break rather than "&" or something?

hawke_: in that case, just use the default joiners.

kepstin-laptop: I’m inclined to use / actually, especially in cases where one of the artists is “Foo & Bar”

But I was just wondering if there was an official guidelines.

that would have been my other suggestion

not that I know of

k

How would you credit a choral with a Biblical text?

"lyricist: [anon]"?

"lyricist: St. Luke"?

[jebus]

god :P

and an AR "St. Luke" was inspired by "God"

haha

I think used to have God in the DB, didn't we?

and god would clearly need a comment to distinguish it from all the non-christian gods out there

You blasphemers and heretics, give me a serious answer! :p

:P

reosarevok: anon or unknown…

Meh

I'd use [biblical text] as a credit for [unknown]

But we don't have them for rels :(

[biblical text] is what it is, not who wrote it :P

:p

Ok, I could use "St. Luke (yeah, sure)" as a credit for [unknown]

:p

tungolcraft: I don't know the translation either

(I don't have the lyrics, just the versicle indication)

Odd, I'm unable to approve http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14859849 :/

Wizzcat: there's something weird with the artist credit

true, is the edit crediting the same group twice?

No idea

bitmap: ping

oh well, I'll just file it

yes

bitmap: isn't the "relate several recordings to a work at the same time" script in userscripts?

reosarevok: it's not on userscripts.org if that's what you mean

Yeah, I meant that

do you need it? :)

okay

(there was a new version with attributes, wasn't there?)

yeah

Could you do the same for works?

Only relating them to another work, using the "part of" attribute

*"has part" rel

is there a "remixed by" script ?

reosarevok: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/442379/

Why not upload it with the rest?

I dunno, maybe I don't trust people enough with making batch edits :P

Hmm, isn't it only an autoedit for autoeditors?

yes, but still

reosarevok: it's possible to make a similar script for works, but it hasn't been done yet

I know

That's why I asked for it :)

maybe I'll write one later

:)

grr

nikki: who did what now?

smilies on jira :/

Doesn't sound that terrible

they didn't used to be there :(

what, it converts them to graphics now?

yes

big obnoxious yellow ones :P

ew

very big, they're twice the regular line height for me o_O

yeah, same

and my fonts are huuuge

(well, ok, not that big, but I still have a minimum font size of like 13 whateverunits)

http://musicbrainz.org/artist/dfe0486a-d8f7-449... is... a bit messy.

I should really upgrade this laptop :(

huh. the 'update artist credits on this release' thing doesn't appear to work properly when you change the number of artists in the artist credit.

How does it fail?

reosarevok: I went from a 4-artist to 5-artist artist credit. in the preview at the end, the change to the release artists was missing the last artist. The track updates were all correct.

it's possible to go back to the first page and relink the artists to get it to work :/.

Oh

Yep

I've seen that

Also the one where split albums show 2 artist credits for all tracks, the second being an empty line

http://musicbrainz.org/release/f72b7bb2-4196-4e... - I managed to do the last 2 edits on this release in one go on the release editor :)

(2 or more, depending on the amount of release artists)

that was tricky to work around the... quirks... or the release editor.

by the time I'm done, most of the tracks on that release will have artist credits linking to 8 artists :/

this file loading issue in Picard is making very little sense :/ it's definitely a bug in the threading code, but very hard to narrow down

Blah, why does a “Add Various Artists” edit feel the need to fill in “Various Artists” on every track credit?

you mean that isn't what you wanted? ;

)

yeah, it would be rather better if it left them blank and wouldn't allow you to submit until you put something in :/

Furthermore, why does it force it to that artist and make it an Artist Credit instead of adding it as a new entity if I fill in a new artist there?

the release editor has too much magic and too little functionality

has been my opinion all along :P

hawke_: that sounds like a bug... and since nobody's subscribed to 'various artists' there's probably a bunch of those sneaking in :/

well, nikki ended up subscribed to various artists at one point, but :P

http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14864284 ← lovely.

heh

kepstin-laptop: the only way of fixing that would be killing the release editor

oh, wait

reosarevok: sounds good.

now I see

when can you start?

+1 from me :P

ianmcorvidae: we need a classical interface

So please do

haha

And then write that one too

of course the problem is the whole edit system really needs to be redone so any edit API would become obsolete as soon as that happened :/

reosarevok: A “classical interface”?

hawke_: yeah

one that doesn't make editing classical things tedious and annoying

That

(it could be read as "an interface like classic MB"… which could work too :P )

But I meant what ian said

y'know, manually making a work for every single recording, doing all the relations, fixing all the automatic artist credits, etc.

this is true

I just want to be able to add url relationships at creation time

instead of clicking all around :/

yeah, that would also be a good improvement

amusing that we're talking about lots of things to _add_ to the release editor just as we talk about hating the release editor :P

I think everything that would be useful in a “classical interface” would be just as nice in a standard interface

Oh wait, kepstin-laptop already said that

hehe

almost word for word

hawke_: I doubt most people would need a "create parent work for all these parts" thingy

Or an "order by Op. #" thingy

reosarevok: Yeah, but creating works for things is already plenty tedius and annoying

*tedious

parent works are dead simple in comparison

hawke_: bitmap's script S2

I’d much rather have an interface like the recording editor only for works…