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      • reosarevok
        They're certainly not one release, they're a series
      • warp
        reosarevok: well, yes. I agree my solution for this particular release is just as wrong as putting them as seperate releases in the same release group :)
      • reosarevok thinks it makes perfect sense to have one release for all
      • reosarevok also thinks podcasters should give better tracklists, but that's not in our hand to change :p
      • reosarevok
        *for all -> for each
      • warp
        we really need some proper series support for that to be useful.
      • reosarevok
        In which way?
      • (we should think of getting proper series support anyway, but still)
      • warp
        if I'm going to view a podcast in musicbrainz, I want to get a list of episodes.
      • Shisma
      • reosarevok
        warp: Well, call them "Series Name, Date" and you get a nice ordered list
      • dubwai
        in one cover one artist have 3 diffrent spelling :-D
      • reosarevok
        dubwai: kill the artist and bury his body
      • ("Series Name, Date: Title" if it has a title)
      • warp: it becomes kind of a problem if each episode should be attributed to a different artist (FACT mixes have that, although I don't know if you'd call that a podcast)
      • But you could always use a "label" for it if you want a hack
      • It's a smaller hack than any other option
      • warp
        reosarevok: why would it be a problem?
      • reosarevok
        Because there's nowhere to find them nicely listed
      • (UI problem rather than data problem)
      • warp
        I don't understand the issue.
      • reosarevok
        You said you wanted a list of episodes
      • warp
        yes
      • reosarevok
        If all podcasts are under the same artist, some simple standardising of titles gives you that list
      • All in one place
      • warp
        ah, like that
      • as I said, I think we need some proper series support :D
      • reosarevok
        Of course
      • But that needs developing :p
      • reosarevok is thinking of what to do before it arrives
      • After all, one thing is passing a decision through style, and other getting it done
      • reosarevok looks at the no barcode checkbox and whistles
      • ;)
      • Once we get the proper support, series will need to be adapted to it anyway, so having some temporary guidelines for them wouldn't hurt
      • dubwai
      • reosarevok
        (also, I don't really know how that proper support would be)
      • CatCat
        what IS a podcast anyway?
      • i get it some sort of file from the internet but
      • dubwai: i don't get it.. it's fine the way it is
      • dubwai
        ?
      • CatCat
        why are yo uchanging VA to the same VA?
      • and you shouldnt change track artists
      • reosarevok
        dubwai: there's a bug
      • Mineo
        CatCat: that wtf was like "i didn't do this on purpose!"
      • reosarevok
        If that's what I imagine it is
      • It should be fixed soon
      • CatCat
        Mineo: how was i supposed to know :å
      • reosarevok
        Doesn't do anything bad, AFAIK
      • CatCat still votes no :P
      • dubwai
        reosarevok: i must cancel it?
      • reosarevok
        dubwai: yeah, please do
      • Mineo
        CatCat: you're not supposed to, that's why i told you :)
      • CatCat
        i would do that ,ye
      • Mineo: .. what? i am not "supposed" to vote as i see coprrect and fit on a bug edit?
      • reosarevok
        CatCat: to know!
      • :p
      • You were not supposed to know :p
      • CatCat
        this is higlhy confusing and not at all amusing
      • reosarevok
        CatCat: Mineo: how was i supposed to know :å
      • [4:06pm] Mineo: CatCat: you're not supposed to, that's why i told you :)
      • CatCat
        that wasn't what happened.. several peopel said more things between th two
      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I'm pointing to what he was replying to
      • CatCat
        i may misspell, true, but i do so becasue i am trying to type as fast as the conversatino goes
      • and i am sayign he shoudl be more clear
      • reosarevok
        Fine
      • dubwai: please cancel
      • :p
      • dubwai
        i already do it
      • reosarevok
        :)
      • CatCat
        it's not my fault
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      • i'm sorry.. but i don't understadn wthis sentence
      • "CatCat: you're not supposed to, that's why i told you :)"
      • why am I "not supposed to know"
      • why do you thne know?
      • reosarevok
        Because nobody had told you before
      • CatCat
        why is it you then tell me?
      • reosarevok
        While someone had told him
      • CatCat
        it' i'm not supposed to know, aren't you doing something wrong in telling me?
      • wtf?
      • and he said "not supposed to" not "not supposed to know"
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      • Shisma
        i tried to add a series as release group: http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/320e844f-9...
      • bricas
        there's probably nothing we can do if the default album cover on amazon is wrong, so it comes out wrong on MB/Picard?
      • CatCat
        we're not supposed to know
      • ":p"
      • reosarevok
        bricas: probably nope
      • bricas
      • CatCat
        basically i can't know if i'm the put of a joke here or if i ma just not gettign it
      • reosarevok
        (except checking if the release is actually the same, and removing the link if not)
      • CatCat: no joke
      • CatCat
        wich amounts to the same but i digress
      • ok
      • reosarevok
        You're just not getting it :(
      • CatCat
        well it's not my fault
      • reosarevok
        But it wasn't mean
      • kepstin-laptop
        Shisma: you're not supposed to add a series as a release group, in most cases. Each volume in the series should have its own release group.
      • Mineo
        oh-oh, what have I done to CatCat ?:P
      • CatCat
        well you shoudl think a bit about what looks like "mean"
      • Shisma
        there is no styleguideline yet
      • CatCat
        yea that :p
      • reosarevok
        Mineo: confuse him, clearly
      • Shisma
        so we should experiment with it i think
      • CatCat
        don't do this when you're serious -> :p <-
      • reosarevok
        kepstin-laptop: this might be related to the podcast issue, for which there's no guideline indeed
      • CatCat
        :(
      • bricas wonders if there could be an option in picard to pick from the available cover art options?
      • CatCat is confused yea.. as long as you're not making fun of me!
      • Leftmost
        Shisma, the intended scope of a release group is a set of releases of the same "album".
      • kepstin-laptop
        we really could use some way of putting series or related releases grouped somehow in general :/
      • CatCat
        I am made fun of a lot.. it's oftn the spelling or some other thing
      • :(
      • ok!
      • Mineo
        CatCat: I was trying to say "you don't need to know of every single bug the server has, but before dubwai and you confuse yourselves, I'm telling you that dubwai hit abug"
      • CatCat
        oh!
      • then *SAY* that then d:
      • ^____^
      • thanks Mineo
      • Shisma
        but there is no such thing as an "album" in terms of podcasts
      • reosarevok
        kepstin-laptop: that was what warp was saying :p
      • CatCat
        yea this. what *is* a podcast?
      • reosarevok
        CatCat: as far as I understand it, both a series of internet-based "radio programs" and each one of those programs
      • But I've always been bad at definitions
      • So maybe check the wiki
      • (Wikipedia, I mean, not MB Wiki(
      • CatCat
        so like.. would an sixxmixx count?
      • it was on the radio
      • Leftmost
        Shisma, that's why I put "album" in quotes. I'd say if the contents are substantially different, it's probably not the same release group. (Meaning if there's almost no shared content, or presumably as is the case with a podcast, none.)
      • CatCat
        orgininally
      • reosarevok doesn't know where the limit is, CatCat
      • kepstin-laptop
        any guidelines that are created for podcasts would probably also be applicable to other recurring radio programs.
      • Shisma
        CatCat: some podcasts are also produced as radio shows
      • reosarevok
        kepstin-laptop: I think they would probably be quite broadly applicable myself, yes
      • But clearly we need some written
      • warp
        CatCat: radio shows are a bit different in that they're usually only played on the radio.
      • reosarevok would still vote for "Series Title, Date: Individual Title", and each one as an individual release / release groups
      • reosarevok
        CatCat: of course, nowadays, it's not strange for a radio to play programs and also put them for download (like rinse.fm does)
      • warp
        CatCat: so other people recording them, sometimes only some episodes, sometimes all of them, and make a sort of bootleg release of whatever they recorded.
      • kepstin-laptop
        one of the CBC radio stations in canada has a "podcast" which is to introduce new artists - it consists of just a spoken introduction, followed by a song.
      • reosarevok
        People, a quick OT: http://hiphopmadrid.com/maquetas/d-gomez-3-sent... looking at the cover, would you use "3 sentimientos mixtape", "3 sentimientos: mixtape" or "3 sentimientos" ?
      • MBChatLogger
        Wow! Double rainbows!
      • Arthur_Rainbow has left the channel
      • reosarevok facepalms
      • pankkake
        so it reacts to everything, not only publics
      • warp
        reosarevok: "3 sentimientos mixtape", but I don't know what sentimientos means.
      • reosarevok
        "3 feelings"
      • thresh
        evening
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