They're certainly not one release, they're a series
2011-07-26 20701, 2011
warp
reosarevok: well, yes. I agree my solution for this particular release is just as wrong as putting them as seperate releases in the same release group :)
2011-07-26 20714, 2011
reosarevok thinks it makes perfect sense to have one release for all
2011-07-26 20733, 2011
reosarevok also thinks podcasters should give better tracklists, but that's not in our hand to change :p
2011-07-26 20742, 2011
reosarevok
*for all -> for each
2011-07-26 20759, 2011
warp
we really need some proper series support for that to be useful.
2011-07-26 20730, 2011
reosarevok
In which way?
2011-07-26 20700, 2011
reosarevok
(we should think of getting proper series support anyway, but still)
2011-07-26 20710, 2011
warp
if I'm going to view a podcast in musicbrainz, I want to get a list of episodes.
warp: Well, call them "Series Name, Date" and you get a nice ordered list
2011-07-26 20710, 2011
dubwai
in one cover one artist have 3 diffrent spelling :-D
2011-07-26 20725, 2011
reosarevok
dubwai: kill the artist and bury his body
2011-07-26 20746, 2011
reosarevok
("Series Name, Date: Title" if it has a title)
2011-07-26 20735, 2011
reosarevok
warp: it becomes kind of a problem if each episode should be attributed to a different artist (FACT mixes have that, although I don't know if you'd call that a podcast)
2011-07-26 20754, 2011
reosarevok
But you could always use a "label" for it if you want a hack
2011-07-26 20703, 2011
reosarevok
It's a smaller hack than any other option
2011-07-26 20715, 2011
warp
reosarevok: why would it be a problem?
2011-07-26 20737, 2011
reosarevok
Because there's nowhere to find them nicely listed
2011-07-26 20746, 2011
reosarevok
(UI problem rather than data problem)
2011-07-26 20755, 2011
warp
I don't understand the issue.
2011-07-26 20706, 2011
reosarevok
You said you wanted a list of episodes
2011-07-26 20710, 2011
warp
yes
2011-07-26 20726, 2011
reosarevok
If all podcasts are under the same artist, some simple standardising of titles gives you that list
2011-07-26 20734, 2011
reosarevok
All in one place
2011-07-26 20744, 2011
warp
ah, like that
2011-07-26 20755, 2011
warp
as I said, I think we need some proper series support :D
2011-07-26 20700, 2011
reosarevok
Of course
2011-07-26 20708, 2011
reosarevok
But that needs developing :p
2011-07-26 20720, 2011
reosarevok is thinking of what to do before it arrives
2011-07-26 20724, 2011
reosarevok
After all, one thing is passing a decision through style, and other getting it done
2011-07-26 20734, 2011
reosarevok looks at the no barcode checkbox and whistles
2011-07-26 20748, 2011
reosarevok
;)
2011-07-26 20758, 2011
reosarevok
Once we get the proper support, series will need to be adapted to it anyway, so having some temporary guidelines for them wouldn't hurt
basically i can't know if i'm the put of a joke here or if i ma just not gettign it
2011-07-26 20737, 2011
reosarevok
(except checking if the release is actually the same, and removing the link if not)
2011-07-26 20742, 2011
reosarevok
CatCat: no joke
2011-07-26 20743, 2011
CatCat
wich amounts to the same but i digress
2011-07-26 20748, 2011
CatCat
ok
2011-07-26 20749, 2011
reosarevok
You're just not getting it :(
2011-07-26 20757, 2011
CatCat
well it's not my fault
2011-07-26 20758, 2011
reosarevok
But it wasn't mean
2011-07-26 20700, 2011
kepstin-laptop
Shisma: you're not supposed to add a series as a release group, in most cases. Each volume in the series should have its own release group.
2011-07-26 20716, 2011
Mineo
oh-oh, what have I done to CatCat ?:P
2011-07-26 20724, 2011
CatCat
well you shoudl think a bit about what looks like "mean"
2011-07-26 20725, 2011
Shisma
there is no styleguideline yet
2011-07-26 20728, 2011
CatCat
yea that :p
2011-07-26 20733, 2011
reosarevok
Mineo: confuse him, clearly
2011-07-26 20742, 2011
Shisma
so we should experiment with it i think
2011-07-26 20743, 2011
CatCat
don't do this when you're serious -> :p <-
2011-07-26 20747, 2011
reosarevok
kepstin-laptop: this might be related to the podcast issue, for which there's no guideline indeed
2011-07-26 20748, 2011
CatCat
:(
2011-07-26 20752, 2011
bricas wonders if there could be an option in picard to pick from the available cover art options?
2011-07-26 20721, 2011
CatCat is confused yea.. as long as you're not making fun of me!
2011-07-26 20735, 2011
Leftmost
Shisma, the intended scope of a release group is a set of releases of the same "album".
2011-07-26 20737, 2011
kepstin-laptop
we really could use some way of putting series or related releases grouped somehow in general :/
2011-07-26 20737, 2011
CatCat
I am made fun of a lot.. it's oftn the spelling or some other thing
2011-07-26 20739, 2011
CatCat
:(
2011-07-26 20749, 2011
CatCat
ok!
2011-07-26 20750, 2011
Mineo
CatCat: I was trying to say "you don't need to know of every single bug the server has, but before dubwai and you confuse yourselves, I'm telling you that dubwai hit abug"
2011-07-26 20705, 2011
CatCat
oh!
2011-07-26 20723, 2011
CatCat
then *SAY* that then d:
2011-07-26 20741, 2011
CatCat
^____^
2011-07-26 20751, 2011
CatCat
thanks Mineo
2011-07-26 20758, 2011
Shisma
but there is no such thing as an "album" in terms of podcasts
2011-07-26 20710, 2011
reosarevok
kepstin-laptop: that was what warp was saying :p
2011-07-26 20711, 2011
CatCat
yea this. what *is* a podcast?
2011-07-26 20746, 2011
reosarevok
CatCat: as far as I understand it, both a series of internet-based "radio programs" and each one of those programs
2011-07-26 20753, 2011
reosarevok
But I've always been bad at definitions
2011-07-26 20757, 2011
reosarevok
So maybe check the wiki
2011-07-26 20703, 2011
reosarevok
(Wikipedia, I mean, not MB Wiki(
2011-07-26 20715, 2011
CatCat
so like.. would an sixxmixx count?
2011-07-26 20723, 2011
CatCat
it was on the radio
2011-07-26 20730, 2011
Leftmost
Shisma, that's why I put "album" in quotes. I'd say if the contents are substantially different, it's probably not the same release group. (Meaning if there's almost no shared content, or presumably as is the case with a podcast, none.)
2011-07-26 20732, 2011
CatCat
orgininally
2011-07-26 20713, 2011
reosarevok doesn't know where the limit is, CatCat
2011-07-26 20738, 2011
kepstin-laptop
any guidelines that are created for podcasts would probably also be applicable to other recurring radio programs.
2011-07-26 20742, 2011
Shisma
CatCat: some podcasts are also produced as radio shows
2011-07-26 20738, 2011
reosarevok
kepstin-laptop: I think they would probably be quite broadly applicable myself, yes
2011-07-26 20743, 2011
reosarevok
But clearly we need some written
2011-07-26 20709, 2011
warp
CatCat: radio shows are a bit different in that they're usually only played on the radio.
2011-07-26 20718, 2011
reosarevok would still vote for "Series Title, Date: Individual Title", and each one as an individual release / release groups
2011-07-26 20742, 2011
reosarevok
CatCat: of course, nowadays, it's not strange for a radio to play programs and also put them for download (like rinse.fm does)
2011-07-26 20753, 2011
warp
CatCat: so other people recording them, sometimes only some episodes, sometimes all of them, and make a sort of bootleg release of whatever they recorded.
2011-07-26 20738, 2011
kepstin-laptop
one of the CBC radio stations in canada has a "podcast" which is to introduce new artists - it consists of just a spoken introduction, followed by a song.
