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      • davitf
        so, amazon ASINs
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      • davitf
        are they for cover art, for information or for purchasing?
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      • davitf
        this has popped up quite a lot for me in this voting sprint
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      • davitf
        (btw, hi there, first time in the chat)
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      • davitf
        actually the question is, should we allow ASINs when the track lists are different but the covers are the same?
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      • davitf
        and when the release is the same but it doesn't provide a cover?
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      • flamingspinach
        I usually avoid attaching ASINs with different track lists
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      • flamingspinach
        it breaks both information and purchasing from that list of three things
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      • Mineo
        nikki: is artist credit meant to solve the issue of bands renaming?
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      • nikki
        good question.
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      • nikki
        we don't currently have a way to filter releases by artist credit, so I could imagine some people wouldn't want to merge artists if the names are too different
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      • nikki
        but if the changes are pretty minor, then yes, it solves that problem
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      • Mineo
        hm, ok
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      • nikki
        and it also solves the different name for legal issues problem, since we can just use whatever name they used on the cover for that release
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      • Mineo
        legal issues problem?
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      • nikki
        like suede -> london suede, yaz/yazoo (whichever was the original name)
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      • warp
        Mineo: where artist "Foo Bar" cannot use the name "Foo Bar" in a single country because it is trademarked there, stuff like that.
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      • nikki
        covenant/the kovenant... puffy/puffy amiyumi...
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      • nikki
        yeah
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      • nikki
        gah
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      • Mineo
        I see
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      • nikki
        I hate edits where I would vote yes for one thing and no for another
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      • Mineo
        good to know it solves problems I didn't even know about :)
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      • nikki
        hehe
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      • warp
        haha
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      • nikki
        it also means japanese (etc) artists who release stuff in america (etc) can have latin names in the artist credit instead of squiggles :)
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      • Tecfan
        a friend asked me for help to recognize a song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jUb4930ZM 4:53. if you know it, please say!
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      • jesus2099
        is there a NGS problem with multi-discs release that have the disc catnum on each disc (I mean an ongoing catnum +1 sequence like KICS-1182 on disc 1 and KICS-1183 on disc 2, just an example) ?
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      • jesus2099
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      • nikki
        there will be two catalogue numbers linked to the disc in ngs
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      • nikki
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      • nikki
        err
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      • nikki
        linked to the release
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      • nikki
        btw jesus2099, I'm not sure about DAK in the catalogue number in http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=14426599 ... I've seen it added to the front of catalogue numbers for indies releases quite a few times and cd japan even mentions it on http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/help/product_info.html#10
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      • nikki
        but I can't find any scans for that release...
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      • jesus2099
        oh it's a puitty that there is no migration script understanding that when there is a disc1/disc2 AR link, then sequential catnums are to be analysed...
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      • nikki
        how do you mean?
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      • jesus2099
        so we really should edit *all those* mutlidisc catnums to avoid duplicates?
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      • jesus2099
        Having two catnums but it's the same release is weird in NGS link you gave
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      • jesus2099
        there is no more disc-to-catnum link now?
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      • jesus2099
        but whole-release-to-catnum it seems
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      • nikki
        not yet :( warp wants it though, so do I
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      • jesus2099
        I want to! But what to do now? edit the stuff like neotheone did? or letting them in place?
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      • nikki
        and it wouldn't be too difficult to make it take ABCD-1234 and ABCD-1235 and display ABCD-1234~5 even though it's stored as two catalogue numbers, if we wanted to do that
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      • jesus2099
        if we edit : what pattern? KICS-1182/3 or KICS-1182~3 or KICS-1182-83 ... etc... :/
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      • nikki
        (I even did it once, and then accidentally deleted the code :( )
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      • jesus2099
        *DAK* catnum : I had some doubts too as I couldn't find scan either
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      • jesus2099
        this other release is with another schemen (another label probably) http://img297.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/2/1/0/4/…
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      • Muz
        Schemen? Does jesus2099 have schemen stains?
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      • jesus2099
        euclid agency
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      • jesus2099
        i don't know what it is... I meant scheme, pattern,
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      • jesus2099
        nikki: so maybe i should abstain instead of voting no on that catnum change edit?
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      • jesus2099
        nikki: ?
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      • jesus2099
        nikki: about DAK, I found a scan for a so-called DAKHMS-7 in which I can actually see HMS-0007 http://page12.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p79…
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      • nikki
        I don't know how you should vote :/
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      • jesus2099
        should we merge all the KONAMI BTW ?
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      • nikki
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      • nikki
        good question. I don't edit konami stuff so I'm not very familiar with it
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      • jesus2099
        let's try with teh cdjournal two-part catnum search...
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      • jesus2099
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      • jesus2099
        it's so EAZZ-0025 indeed !
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      • jesus2099
        and now for "my" release event, it seems to be EAZZ-0013 http://search.cdjournal.com/disc/?t=2&na=EAZZ…
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      • jesus2099
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      • nikki approves it :P
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      • jesus2099
        :)
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      • jesus2099
        thanks for your help
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      • nikki
        no problem
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      • pankkake
        is there a list of discids without release events?
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      • pankkake
        found :)
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      • pankkake
        wow, there are so many discids left :(
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      • reosarevok
        pankkake: many of them are probably not real
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      • reosarevok
        (homebrew)
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      • pankkake
        reosarevok: well I found two of three to be valid (ok, that's not much for a sample size :p)
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, yeah, I said "many", not "most"
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      • reosarevok
        I imagine there are a good amount of real ones too
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      • reosarevok wonders if a FLAC release and an MP3 release should be one or two NGS releases
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      • reosarevok
        (the label has cat# 7770015M for one and 7770015F for the other…)
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      • Tecfan
        hm.
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      • Tecfan
        what about mp3 v0, v1, v2, 320, 256
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      • Tecfan
        :D
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      • reosarevok
        Well, I ask specifically because of the two cat#s
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      • nikki
        reosarevok: I've used two separate release events in the past when there were two formats with two catalogue numbers
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      • VxJasonxV
        But I want to enter an edit!
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      • VxJasonxV
        p.s. someone should really update the topic in this channel.
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      • nikki
        you do it :P
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      • VxJasonxV
        but I shouldn't.
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      • VxJasonxV
        oh, the topic
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      • VxJasonxV
        can't, no @'s