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man, I have no idea what to use as the track artists on http://lantis.jp/new-release/data.php?id=18bd8b...

:/

well, you will listen to weird music ;D

:)

but yeah; on the album art, the most obvious artist is "Lantis feat.初音ミク・鏡音リン・巡音ルカ・MEIKO" or so

which isn't particularly nice. But just "Lantis" doesn't make much sense as an artist; I suppose I could use the person who programmed the voice synthesizers...

kepstin: I think attributing it to the "manipulator" is probably your best bet.

right, so http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=12395130 was applied on the wrong release, I'll have to remove those and stick them on the correct one.

had the wrong MBID in my copy/paste buffer, and the release it actually went on looks almost the same :/

nikki, how on earth did you manage to spot that?

I searched the database for tracks with more than one isrc :)

and with different titles?

er, wait, I see

searched for tracks with multiple ISRCs assigned to them

there's almost 400... and most of the ones I've checked are are various artists ones where I've got no hope of finding the original edit >_<

some quick checking on last.fm is showing that most people seem to be using the 'Lantis feat.初音ミク' form as the track artist, searching the manipulators gets nothing.

Bah. Lantis feat.初音ミク will have to do then, even though it seems a bit odd.

yeah, well, the "X feat. 初音ミク" style is very popular with the various people doing vocaloid music

one of the people credited as a 'manipulator' there also has their own 'feat. 初音ミク' songs, http://www.last.fm/music/ぢょんP+feat.初音ミク

never seen 'Record Label feat. 初音ミク' before tho :)

I can understand Composer feat.初音ミク, but Record Label feat.初音ミク just dosen't seem right

it's basically true tho; the subtitle on the album is (more-or-less) "Hear Lantis's music sung by Hatsune Miku"

and it's a bunch of anime theme songs published by Lantis; that's the only relation between them.

Ah, I forgot that this is a remix of Lantis tunes rather than original content. That makes a bit more sene.

sense

looks like on a couple of them they actually started with the original masters; they replaced the chorus vocals chorus vocals that were present in the karaoke versions.

hmm. I think we need a 'programmed voice synthesizer on' AR :)

heh

hmm. actually

all we actually need is 'Voice Synthesizer' added as an instrument

then the regular 'programmed' ar will work

nice

hmm. that page looks like it's supposed to be in alphabetical order, eh.

something like that

well then, http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Talk:Advanced_Instr...

anyone alive?

tkooda: yes

I can't seem to figure out how to get the coverart.py plugin to do anything. Ubuntu 10.4 Lynx, Picard 0.12, coverart.py 0.12 installed in ~/.config/MusicBrainz/Picard/plugins/ (even tried `chmod +x` the coverart.py and coverart.pyc).. I've restarted Picard after installing the plugin. I still never get anything but the generic CD where the album art would be in the UI?

..clicking on the generic CD image in the bottom right of the UI opens up a browser page that has the cover art.. I can't seem to drag+drop, or come up with any other way to get the album art to be downloaded?

what am I doing wrong?

I've searched the forums, and the Wiki.. found two bug tickets for the coverart.py that weren't any help

clicking "Save" button after I've identified the tracks does update my ID3 tags in my mp3's... just no cover art embedded? -my Options->Cover Art prefs are set to "Embed cover images into tags".. I presume it would if the plugin was able to download them??

can you help?

where did you get the coverart 0.12?

from http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Picard_Plugins ?

that's version 0.6.1 which works for me

clicked on the "download plugins" button in the settings which opened up that url, yes.. then saved the coverart.py to that plugins/ dir

does the release you're trying to get the album art for have a ASIN or CoverArtLink relationship?

md5sum ~/.config/MusicBrainz/Picard/plugins/coverart.py : 5baa4d9383f51f3798a49171fac603dc

I think they do. one example is: http://musicbrainz.org/album/ecfd9f0e-c6ab-41bd...

I can see the cover art on the musicbrainz.org album info page, and an Amazon ASIN listed?

again, works for me

could the problem be that I first identified the tracks in Picard BEFORE noticing that I needed to download the coverart.py plugin?

could you run picard -d in a terminal and look at the output?

no

(I've restarted Picard since installing the plugin)

will try '-d'

`picard -d` output of tagging a single mp3: http://monkeyballs.net/tmp/2010-09-16.picard/lo...

`id3v2 -l CAKE.-.The.Distance.mp3` output: http://monkeyballs.net/tmp/2010-09-16.picard/ta...

um, did yu activate the plugin?

how?

options -> options -> plugins

I see it listed in the Options -> Plugins area.. but double clicking on it or right-clicking on it does nothing.. it says the Name, Version, and Author(s) of the plugin (suggesting it sees and is able to parse the plugin).. I don't see any way for me to "activate" it though??

there's a checkbox in front of the name

oh christ.. heh

BINGO!

:)

it's an almost white checkbox on an almost white background.. never would have seen that checkbox

tried double and right clicking on the plugin before.. just didn't see that checkbox.

works great now. thanks!

well, time to change you Qt theme ;)

aah.. spose yer right.. is incorrect to fault Picard for my theme. good point.

thanks

made my day

hi; I have a question about artists notability - is there any rule of thumb whether to include artists or not?

synta10: no, this is not wikipedia

xlotlu: great! thanks

the only rule is that the artist has to have some sort of relationship (e.g. is the release artist / performs a track etc.), otherwise it will get auto-deleted

If I want to tag a cover of a track to the 'original' track, and the original track was both released on an album and as a single - which one should I use?

Lademord: usually you should link to whichever was release first.

(if they're otherwise identical)

Okay

It can be hard to determine sometimes if both RE's are just marked "1997" :)

Lademord: IMO singles usualy come out first

Roger that. Singles it is unless something's clearly showing the album came out first

really?

...which leads me to another problem. I want to relate a parody cover of Los del Rio's "Macarena" to the original, but http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/d6cc66bd-c... - which one is that?

okay, maybe not... it more depends on artist's practice

I would say the first single of the album comes before the album, but it's not uncommon for subsequent singles come out after the album is released.

It's certainly a jingle

*jungle

or both, lol

Lademord: I would suggest this one - http://musicbrainz.org/release/44bccb20-7172-45... - since it has already a lot of relationships on it

synta10: Thanks. I was thinking about choosing that one as well, but wanted to be sure :)

Now I'm at a specific case where I'm gonna go ahead and use a compilation-track as 'original' (http://musicbrainz.org/track/27cd4941-42ad-46c7... ) simply because there doesn't exist any earlier version in MusicBrainz

Lademord: that will have to do.

:)

hi

About the duplicate slide down ISRC submission problem of yesterdays

I borwsed you ISRC edits through the duplicate finder remover™ http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/81127 and found very few duplicates indeed, but there are two :

still unresolevd... now i'm about to parse mines and I think I'll find more of them

i mean those two dupes are still unresolved

wow 38 edits for me, nikki... and it all began when i started submiting from my library borrowings (used) discs...

I always wanted to do that, but they charged an extortionate amount for borrowing cds ¬_¬

hm...

I don't know how else to get isrcs

i have this "Tau Analyzer" and "media_info" which get the real ISRC

for these cases

are they windows programs?

or you can try to (eject / re-scan) them over and over until you get something better

media_info: yes

Tau analyzer: oh yes also

not much use for me then :)

bad libidibidic.... it would be nice if this library that reads the ISRC would be fixed with paranoïac re-(re-re-re-)scanning-raw-sector-reading-code-until-it's-sure like those two programs.. but i don't know anything about the provenance of libidibidic (used by isrcsubmit)

I get exactly the same results for both discs :/

Don't you know other programs for ISRC on Unix ? I made a small list for the ones I use in Windows http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid... but i don't know anything about unix

I'm using a mac

fax me the discs i'll try them :)