#musicbrainz

I'm assuming the common sense thing to do for a marriage surname-change is to just apply it and annotate?

I guess the wiki sort of implies it, thought it certainly could be more explicit considering it's not a particularly rare case

probably

I've been thinking about the same thing.

I've noticed both cases where the name has been changed, and cases where there's a new artist.

One of the latter ones I actually noticed yesterday and wondered in the edit if it should be merged to the original name.

well if I've understood NGS correctly artist credits will alleviate it somewhat

and yes, there are tons of those

when bands completely change the name it's kind of hard to justify merging them though, since the old name will be lost

It's the same with people, really. 8)

And of course it's somewhat rewriting the history, since the name changes for all past ARs as well.

wonder what happens if I merge artists on test.mbz

I'd sort of expect an option to either transfer artist credits to the new name, or retain them

it keeps the credits

I think it needs an option though (same for editing artists), fixing typos will be so much more tedious otherwise

yup, most merges I do are for errors

Nikki ? I need to reply to the guy that is asking if there is an example of smart catalogue number seach anywhere but I unsubscribed the ML

Could you post this example for VICL-60686 to him?

same results with or without the hyphen

or someone else here who is subscribed to style ML ?

ok

nice! Thanks :) I should have created a forums thread from the start with a link to it in my ML post but now it's too late. I don't think I have anything else to say anyway ;p

those amazon links can be cleaned up a little

cool

hmv too

that makes them turn into links in the chat logs too \o/

even shorter one for amazon http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/?k=VICL-60686

haha "No more results. Try Google."

duck duck go \o/

duck duck go?

for some reason I can't search in the page there :/

it just jumps straight to the actual search field

oh, maybe it's hijacked my /

nikki: what page?

the duck duck go one

what is it ducj ducj go?

you can disable keyboard shortcuts in the settings.

a search engine

if you read the thread you started, you'd see :P

ow

jesus2099: you should probably stay subscribe the style mailinglist if you want to make style changes.

or is it "aw" ?

warp: I really don't like receiving tons of e-mails I just delete them all the time even if I'm only subscribed a few minutes I receive tons

I think it'd be "ow", but I can't be sure what you wanted it mean :)

duck duck go, is it nice search? nikki: I don't have troubles on duckduckgo (same browser)

dunno, I've never used it, I was just looking at warp's examples

jesus2099: I can understand that you don't like that. But you will have to if you want to make the change you suggested.

I can pass the flag or something like that...

I use google because I'm used to using google and every time I try and switch I just get confused

hehe, kuno: what's nice with the duck? at least the logo is cute

warp: I know it's quite absurd to create a ML entry and unsubscribe but it's the only place I was supposed to post something like that. I can't follow discussions in mailing lists, that's a technical problem in my brain, if it's not all on one page like a forum. So it wouldn't help anything if I staid subscribed anyway.

jesus2099: much better focus on privacy, google sometimes replace links with broken redirect links which you cannot copy/paste, a support email address where someone will quickly respond to any issue you're mailing him about.

"I'm feeling ducky" <- `\(^Δ^;)/

hm, google isn't smart enough to ignore leading zeros though

perhaps we should allow unsubscribed users to post to the ML

most mailing lists I'm subscribed to use settings like that

they have to be moderated first, but still better than having other people to post instead of you

luks: who's going to go through all the spam and find the few posts which are actually supposed to go through to the mailinglist?

jesus2099: here it's all in one page like a forum: http://2986109.n2.nabble.com/-td5157417.html

warp: spam isn't a big issue in my experience

warp: I know what you mean about their links it's really annoying me now (it's new isn't it) links are google redirects, I have to use a userscript but it sometimes doesn't retrieve the real URL nicely so maybe I'll replace google by duck if you didn't see any drawaback (did you?)

I'm admin of taglib-devel [at kde.org] and it rarely gets spam

I just switch domains when the redirects appear, they seem to come and go for some reason

same for one google group I administer

fatih: thanks but I already try long times ago, it's even worse to understand anything than the plain http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbra...

jesus2099: I use duck duck go as my main search engine, but still use google often enough in areas where ddg doesn't give me good results.

we could always give it a try, if it doesn't work, go back to members-only

luks: if you're volunteering, I won't object. I personally don't really see the need for it.

I don't know if there are any spam filters

obviously it doesn't make sense if there isn't anything :)

hey guys don't change all this for me, sometimes I need to post so I create a temp. e-mail adress

But I just don't read anything there are way too many posts and it is not structured

nikki: with all these lines I didn't get what you were "talking" about switching domains?

It's a way of removing statistics redirects in google?

jesus2099: probably using google.de or google.fr instead of google.com, and vice versa.

I mean like switching from google.com to google.co.uk or google.co.jp or wherever

there's a long enough list of domains, after all :)

Before I use the userctip to remove redirects I didn't see that changing domains would remove them!!

If duckduck is cool and doesn't try such funny stuff it's even better because having to run after google by regularly update a userscript is tiring...

I added duck as "d %mysearch%" in opera, I'll see by myself ;)

Thanks fatih for the shortened url in hmv and amazon, I can change my "amaj" and "hmv" opera searches too now ;)

I hate advertisemtn but often write some, that's ...

hehe... I like seeing what keywords people use for their searches

What are yours, nikki ^^

?

well I have a huge list but I use "ajp" for amazon.co.jp (and auk for .co.uk and ade for .de)

I have a great "jan" search too: g "jan *" %s ;)

simple search often gives nice stuff, detailed release info

warp: does duck understands "advanced" searches with -exclusions +must "the phrases" inurl:stuff etc. ?

-"excluded phrases" etc.

and wikipedia ones are the language code follows by w (enw, jaw, dew...), musicbrainz ones are mb followed by the letters I use when writing sql queries (mba for artists, mbb for releases, mbn for annotations...) although mbw is the wiki

and dictionaries are based on the language code, of course :P

oh, and yja for searching the yahoo auctions :D

it's yaj for the same for me ;)

it's funny indeed to see that kind of personal choices in such geeky stuff

for wikipedia it's wja, wfr, wvi, wen etc. ;)

translation tools: ej je fe ef .. (by first letter of language)

Hey I do have exaclty same as yours for mb! ;-) (plus mbu, your URL searhc tool)

mbr for release (why mbb?)

because the table in the database is "album" ("release" is the release events table)

so I use b for the album table, r for the release table and l for the language table :)

oh, because you know the db, even more geek

hehe

and here I was thinking I was clever with my ma and mr ;)

Do you know the textparser.php and the artisttracks.php by Muz? It's now offline and maybe I'd like to put it on my php website, but it needs a db and I don't know if I can put the MB db in mysql? Can I ?

wizzcat: hey, I am taking yours, they roxorz indeed!

I think people have managed to import the database with mysql, but I doubt you can keep it up to date

what did those do anyway?

they roxorzed

(it's a new word I discovered)

actually I think it's spelled rox0rz ;)

well I was wondering if I have one that's similar (or if it would interest me enough to make my own :P)

artisttracks would display all tracks by that artist MBID and parsertext would display a release in a text form (copy paste -able in track parser etc.) I would use them with my http://userscripts.org/users/31010/scripts mbid script

How can I load MB DB in mysql then ? :) I can load it regularly for updates maybe

no idea, I've never tried :P

any reason why you can't use postgresql though?

Wizzcat: we just had some issues using that.