it lists all artists and tracks separately and not the thing being 1 long mix with a cue list or something
that thing has been VA forever o_O
(well, since earliy 1999 ;)
Kerensky97: there is also already an AR to Timecode being the remix DJ
both together is kinda pointless to add to the previous issue
drsaunde
deadchip: was away...one sec and i'll check
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deadchip: because Timecode is the release artist on both the cover and spine
deadchip
umm
well i have the disc, i know that
but it can not be sensibly argued that this is a work done by Timecode
i mean, the terminology is getting vague here now
but it's not an _art_work by Timecode
he did a little crossfading on the tracks yeah
drsaunde
well..I only usually credit the DJ mixer as an album artist if they are credited as such on both the cover and spine
and in that case I think they should always be the release artist
but this example is a little different with the crediting of E-Z rollers for the disc 2 as well
technically to be correct you need to change the release artist of disc 2 to various artists as well
deadchip
well
actually i would change the release artist for _both_ discs to Moving Shadow
simply because this thing is a promo
drsaunde
moving shadow is a label not an aritist
deadchip
i know that this isn't normal practice and probably to make it sane there would be something needed to be estblished to allow labels to be direct release artists
drsaunde: i know, and ^
for a promo/showcase of their artists, the label can be for most purposes seen as the release artist
that this is an -entirely- different matter on how to represent this on MB is, well, another matter
drsaunde
ok...i see your point...but as of right now that wouldn't be a good idea to create a label as an artists
deadchip
i was just talking about how it naturally is
yeah i wouldn't do that yet
more like, once labels get firmly into the new server
then it could be thought about this
drsaunde
cool...so will you switch disc 2 to VA as well?
deadchip
maybe even a release class of "Promo"
drsaunde
(but keeping E-Z rollers as track artist)
deadchip
well, heh, actually i would switch it to hrm ok nvm that
drsaunde: on disc2 all tracks are by e-z rollers
drsaunde
but the release as a whole is VA
deadchip
maybe i'm seeing it too simplicistic (?)
ok, in that case, then yes, if you see it as a whole
drsaunde
disc 1 is not available without disc 2 and vice-versa
deadchip
but then, why did you split it into Timecode and E-Z Rollers in the first place :P
drsaunde
i will call that an oversight
or fuckup
deadchip
haha
ok i'll add an edit
and i'll remember to bring the labels-as-artists-for-promo-discs up in .. october
maybe there could be even a release type category Promotional
drsaunde
just remember there are many single-artist promos which that wouldn't apply
deadchip
it wouldn't be 10ths of thousands of releases but some would
hmm
drsaunde
would have to be VA promos
deadchip
yeah
label showcases basically
drsaunde
also another possible problem is that these label promos are often a combination of a few different labels which normally have nothing to do with each other
i hope the rest of the moving shadow stuff holds up...i've done a lot of work there
deadchip
hmm
i think i can check
i have a tonload of moving shadow stuff myself
that's why this caught my eye in the first place heh
That release has 3 ASINs, but B00000008DVO is a customer image, not an Amazon one - the other two ASINs have Amazon art
For the Common one, I do see art
BrianG
gmm
hmm
BrianFreud
You running linux or Win?
BrianG
linux
BrianFreud
Not sure, though I have more of the python packages installed on my Win system - each time someone has art issues, I never seem to, I wonder if it's related...
You have mutagen and pyqt installed, for example?
BrianG
yeah i have all that junk
BrianFreud
as well as real python itself?
BrianG
it worked yesterday
BrianFreud
hmmm
Well, I think for the Ultimate one, it's a flaw in the plugin - it ought to be able to get art from any of the ASINs, and not fail if just one doesn't have art
For the other, let's see...
ok, url is properly formatted, nothing wierd in it
wait
you said you re-downloaded the coverart plugin?
BrianG
yeah
BrianFreud
ok, let me send you mine
BrianG
from the url in the wiki
BrianFreud
I know coverart was one of the 2 things most affected by the plugin coding change between 11 and a12
perhaps that's why you're having issues
BrianG
ah so i might have a plugin for a version of picard that i dont have yet
BrianFreud
Try that version instead
yes
exactly
BrianG
thanks
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now to remember where it goes.. .picard or .config/MusicBrainz/blahblahblah
BrianFreud
a12 and a14 both had some plugin changes - and the path changed too, so what's one the wiki now would NOT be the right path for a11
BrianG
that did the trick
thanks
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BrianFreud
:)
One of the things I think luks added in a14 was plugin versioning, so it'll eventually be clearer what the problem is