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      • drsaunde
        i've never been to HSBC...but went to the old Aud a few times
      • BrianFreud
        before my time up here
      • Driving up from MD to your side, Buffalo was always that "blink and you miss it" alongside the highway
      • BrianFreud PH-2008-04-07 HmH Adam at943-R09 01 (from "") (00:57)
      • drsaunde
        i also saw some baseball at the old War Memorial Stadium (since torn down) but right downtown
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      • pbryan
        BrianFreud: lol re: philosophy...
      • Mission accomplished!
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      • Okay, real question...
      • If artist credit is "Artist A or Artist B", how best to show in MB?
      • BrianFreud
        lol, the liner itself wasn't sure?
      • pbryan shall use it in an English sentence: "Billy Taylor or Bill Benford is credited for playing tuba in "Each Day" by Jelly-Roll Morton and His Red Hot Peppers."
      • pbryan
        Nobody really knows who played bb during this session of 4 tracks.
      • The documentation (everywhere) is fuzzy on the subject.
      • BrianFreud
        I'd just put it in an annotation then
      • pbryan
        No definitive answers.
      • And not credit either artist, or credit both?
      • BrianFreud
        not credit either - 50/50 either by itself is wrong, 100% both at the same time is wrong.
      • pbryan
        Aaaalrighty then.
      • pbryan decides to troll again: MB needs an AR "or" relationship flag.
      • ruaok waves and gets back to work
      • Bye ruaok...
      • ruaok
        I'm only moving over one screen. not going too far. :)
      • pbryan
        lol
      • Dual head rocks, man.
      • ruaok nods
      • pbryan is still waiting for the dual-head notebook.
      • ruaok waits for the dual head GF
      • lol
      • BrianFreud
      • ruaok
        ick. a hostile takeover is going to be BUTT UGLY.
      • BrianFreud
        yup
      • ruaok
        flickr aside, if yahoo goes away, not a great loss.
      • if M$ takes them over, I hope that the combined company flounders and makes itself irrelvant in a few months.
      • BrianFreud
        yahoo, no. All the users who tied themselves to free yahoo accounts...
      • ruaok
        google will be glad to add a few more gmail servers.
      • pbryan
        Does this sound like a reasonable policy to promote: Linking to a Wikipedia page should be for the language of the release.
      • BrianFreud
        no
      • ruaok
        sounds too restrictive
      • pbryan
        Does this sound like a reasonable policy to promote: Link to any damn language-version of a Wikipedia page you can find for the release!
      • BrianFreud
        yup
      • pbryan
        You can find other languages already reference in the Wikipedia page itself.
      • BrianFreud
        links to wikipedia, imho, are just like any other link or data. They ought to be considered solely with regards to themselves, not in connection with other data.
      • pbryan
        So, L-T-A-D-L-V-o-a-W-P-Y-C-F-f-t-R is seriously the better policy.
      • ruaok
        what if we say: "Prefer to link to WP pages in the language that matches the release. If not, anything is better than nothing"
      • pbryan
        ruaok: I can live with that.
      • BrianFreud
        works for me, though I don't see the harm in having multiple wiki links for one release
      • ruaok
        another good point
      • pbryan
        I find the redundancy and clutter repugnant.
      • BrianFreud nods towards the Mozart AR page
      • That's friggin' nuts man.
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      • BrianFreud
      • :)
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      • pbryan
        That's not proof of WP-ARs working.
      • BrianFreud
        it's an extreme case of every wikipedia having an entry, yes
      • but taken one by one, is any one of them incorrect data?
      • if you only allow the native language, then you'd use .de - and the BBC for example, would not have an english wikilink via MB that they could use
      • pbryan
        Nope.
      • And, yup.
      • BrianFreud would suggest the BBC not being able to use MB to get Wikipedia for Mozart = bad thing :P
      • MBChatLogger: bookmark
      • MBChatLogger
        There is no log URI
      • BrianFreud
        MBChatLogger: on ?
      • MBChatLogger
        is already logging
      • pbryan doesn't understand the nuanced interface MBChatLogger exposes.
      • windows == pure evil
      • pbryan
        Windoze
      • BrianFreud
        MBChatLogger: are you aware that SCO is dead in the water, Windows 7 will be a total rewrite (again), and that Gracenote is doomed to die a slow death, while George Bush will be leaving office soon, well timed for the Microsoft v Yahoo showdown to totally distract everyone from the RIAA and the MPAA?
      • MBChatLogger
        I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'are you aware that SCO is dead in the water, Windows 7 will be a total rewrite (again), and that Gracenote is doomed to die a slow death, while George Bush will be leaving office soon, well timed for the Microsoft v Yahoo showdown to totally distract everyone from the RIAA and the MPAA'
      • ruaok
        ROTFL!
      • BrianFreud
        lol
      • somehow I just get a perverse kick out of completely driving MBChatLogger nuts :P
      • ruaok
        I assure you that MBChatLogger is more sane than you are. :)
      • BrianFreud
        hehe
      • drsaunde
        poor chatlogger. Wasn't it your teasing that did in Yaub?
      • ruaok
        lol
      • BrianFreud, the chatlogger bully
      • BrianFreud
        lol, all I said to yaub was !babelfish japanese english 重々しい
      • lol
      • ruaok
        crap.
      • I totally fucked up and installed 32 bit linux on 64 bit misty and jem.
      • ouch.
      • shit, it hurts when you kick yourself
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        is not logging
      • BrianFreud
        MBChatLogger: off
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        is logging
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      • BrianFreud
        Can't say I've ever heard this before, but I like :)
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      • The strangest hack clone I've ever seen: kingdomofloathing.com
      • ruaok
      • BrianG
        hmmm i've played with something like that before and you could edit the speed and dots
      • or maybe it was just the different variations
      • FauxFaux
        Pro.
      • BrianG
      • ruaok
        BrianG: cosmic painter?
      • BrianG
        nah.. i was confusing moving the dots with the hand crank variation of that thing
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      • BrianG
      • drsaunde thinks BrianG should stay off the crank
      • ruaok
        BrianG: lol
      • that would be an awesome GPS receiver hack
      • ruaok bets someone will build tat
      • *that
      • Muz
        tit for tat
      • BrianG
        tittslap
      • ruaok
        titty bingo?
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      • srotta
        BrianG: That would be great for geocaching.
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      • nikki
        pbryan: personally I add links for relevant languages (e.g band's native language, main country of release, plus english since it's the main mb language) but I wouldn't vote against any links with decent content
      • I would certainly have voted against http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Amadeus_... because it's not much better than "there was a cool dude called mozart born in salzburg, austria who wrote loads of music"
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      • srotta
        I wouldn't vote against any link for Wikipedia entry.
      • Even if the page is stub, information can be added later.
      • Ok, now that I actually look at what you said, I agree in the sense that I don't know if adding links in multiple languages makes sense.
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      • nikki
        srotta: by that logic, we could add any webpage on the basis that information could be added later... we could even invent some wikipedia links in case someone decides to start that page :)
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      • nikki shakes her head at people on ebay
      • someone lists something as "will ship worldwide", I buy it and ask for the full total including shipping, then they say they can't ship it to me, then later enter an unpaid item dispute...
      • like I'm going to pay for something they won't send me ¬_¬...
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