and catalyst is very lightweight, if you use only the core parts
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luks
since we don't need ORM or things like that
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luks
so for us it's not really a "MVC" framework
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luks
it's even possible to use mason from catalyst, but I don't think we will need that
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luks
it was quite simple to get it running, though
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aCiD2
Right, and will it be ok to run Mason alongside Catalylist?
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aCiD2
(as development progresses kinda thing)
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luks
of course, since they will use different webservers :)
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aCiD2
ah, thought so :)
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aCiD2
I'll have a play with Catalyst over the next week then, along with TT
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luks
there is not really much to play with
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aCiD2
maybe so, but I still need to have the slightest clue what I'm doing at some point
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aCiD2
before starting work seems sensible :)
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luks
sure, but I think it will be obvious when you see it
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luks
I was working on a simple catalyst setup this weekend, to play nicely with the current MB codebase
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aCiD2
any hiccups?
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luks
not really, but we can't use all the standard catalyst tools
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luks
so it needs some work to integrate e.g. sessions, logins, etc.
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There's a dog in our office, it's awesome
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orogor
hi there
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orogor
anyone has a ripper to suggest? i was about to try sound juicer
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aCiD2
orogor: ping!
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orogor
pong
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orogor
i settled on sound juicer
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aCiD2
I guess you're on linux, but I think the best is still EAC running through Wine
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aCiD2
Sound Juicer is not secure
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orogor
seems likt it s simple enought and works
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orogor
how comes , not secure ?
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orogor
local root exploit?
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aCiD2
no, not that kind of secure
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aCiD2
secure as in secure ripper
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aCiD2
at least I don't think it is
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aCiD2
one sec
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aCiD2
secure ripping ensures you really do get what's on the cd
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orogor
aCiD2, it s a front end to cdparanoia, would cdparanoia not be "secure" ?
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aCiD2
I thought it might be
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aCiD2
well, cdparanoia is known to have issues with caching drives, but it can do secure rips
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FauxFaux
You could just use cdex and stop being paranoid, y'know.
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FauxFaux
You have the media, just re-rip it if it sounds bad.
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aCiD2
FauxFaux: rip once rip right!
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aCiD2
eww
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Muz
C...D... whassat?
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orogor
humm i dont think there s cdex on linux
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aCiD2
the whole point of archiving is in case the cd is damaged
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orogor
but yes i guess on windows i d use that
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aCiD2
what you use is re-ripping then?
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FauxFaux
Of course, what your brain actually cares about is the crc of the audio data coming into your ears.
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aCiD2
that's not the point
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aCiD2
it's no extra effort to get a secure rip, so why wouldn't I want one?
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FauxFaux
Well, your method seems to involve not listening to a newly ripped CD on loop until the next one arrives.
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aCiD2
huh?
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FauxFaux
There is extra effort, you have to use software that's fucking shit, like maybe EAC.
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luks
running EAC on linux _is_ extra effort
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FauxFaux
Which won't even load here (Vista 64).
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aCiD2
I'm not on linux
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aCiD2
anyway, I've really gotta get some sleep.... 30 hours awake is taking it's toll now :P
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orogor
:) i guess youd better go sleep , yes
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Muz
aCiD2, girl
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Muz
aCiD2, stay up until the summit, you can sleep on the train here
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Muz
You'll be fiiiiine
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aCiD2
Muz: can be if you want, we'll sort that out next week
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Muz
aCiD2, can you do your hair in a pooooony tail?
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orogor
Grrra aaaa domaged cd !!
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orogor
damaged
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orogor
Helllll
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orogor
a full album lost
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orogor
moisture in the cd, bwwa
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petros
ripping a cd is like having sex. If you do it right, yo only need to do it once .... wait a minute
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orogor
yhea, that was a bad comparison..
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Muz
Ripping a CD is much like making love to a beautiful woman
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Muz
[/swiss toni]
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FauxFaux
Hehe.
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FauxFaux
Ripping a CD is much like eating an orange.
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Muz
Ripping a CD is much like riding a pony
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FauxFaux
:D
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Muz
(A lot of old nonsense. I mean, who buys CDs anyway?!)
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orogor
:)
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orogor
i am very happy, ripping a very rare bob marley Cd i didn t listened to since maybe 10 years
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orogor
basically it s the same songs everyone know, but witht he volumes of the sound table adjusted differently for each instruments and some additional (minimalistic) effects
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orogor
comes from a 4 cd compile that my dad hat for 3 euro at the flea market
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orogor
unfortunatly i ve been stolen a cd or can t find it anymore and i lost the book (or was it stolen as well)
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orogor
Hoho, seems there s 3 disks only as from musicbrainz, so maybe idont lack one
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orogor
just adding the tocs as there s non for theses disks
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orogor
i think i ll pass on the compiles, too bad i dont have the babylon by bus vynil
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orogor
vinyl
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mm___
Hi gang, it's mikemorr. Any database wizards around?
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mm___
(SQL etc)
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luks
FauxFaux!
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orogor
why so?
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Muz
I put on my robe and wizards hat
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orogor
Muz that sounds like some bash quote
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Muz
orogor, perhaps it's a reference to one ;)
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mm___
Clueless newbie at db/server/etc stuff here.
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orogor
who knows ..
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orogor
well what s the issue
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mm___
OK this is offtopic for this channel but I am trying to help someone out-- they are using a billing application which was apparently built using Visual Fox Pro.
