I only want to know one thing... How is it possible that my music tastes are so odd that given the size of the db, so much of my music still isn't already in there? :D
2008-04-15 10614, 2008
mudcrow
because you havent added it yet
2008-04-15 10619, 2008
BrianFreud has set new goal... get the number of untagged directories under 750
2008-04-15 10640, 2008
nikki_
how many you at at the moment?
2008-04-15 10650, 2008
nikki_
nikki_ is now known as nikki
2008-04-15 10635, 2008
BrianFreud
maybe 950, but some of those have dirs within dirs
2008-04-15 10648, 2008
yllona
/me is looking at the legendary 1962 recording of "Tosca" with leontyne price von karajan conducting the berlin phil... and just can't muster the energy to add a release with that many necessary ARs :)
2008-04-15 10609, 2008
yllona
that's why you have more music locally than in MB
2008-04-15 10617, 2008
BrianFreud
lol
2008-04-15 10643, 2008
BrianFreud
yeah, my current must add but don't wanna is Domenico Scarlatti - Keyboard Sonatas performed by Pier-Jan Belder - 38 cd set
2008-04-15 10651, 2008
BrianFreud
least the Scarlatti K #'s are less confusing :D
2008-04-15 10618, 2008
yllona
i also have the 1979 Aida with mirella freni and jose carreras, again von karajan /berlin phil
2008-04-15 10659, 2008
yllona
itting right on my desk... but hey.
2008-04-15 10601, 2008
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yllona
and another von karajan/berlin phil, pelleas and melisande with frederica von stade
2008-04-15 10659, 2008
BrianFreud
yeah, on the positive side, none of the remainder is "doh, how do we not yet have that listed?" stuff
2008-04-15 10604, 2008
yllona
also from 1979
2008-04-15 10609, 2008
aCiD2|Cycles has quit
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BrianFreud
lots of classical, or things like John Cage - Works for Percussion (Quatuor Helios), Hector Zazou - Songs from the Cold Seas, or specific casts for musicals (Jesus Christ Superstar, 2003 New Orleans cast anyone? :D)
2008-04-15 10653, 2008
yllona
that JCS would be the national touring cast for that year
2008-04-15 10657, 2008
BrianFreud
yes
2008-04-15 10657, 2008
yllona
if things were back to normal in new orleans i'd just call the theater for you :(
2008-04-15 10601, 2008
BrianFreud
(cast recording, so even less likely it'd already be entered)
2008-04-15 10611, 2008
BrianFreud
nah, I have the details, just have yet to enter it
2008-04-15 10614, 2008
yllona
cool. 'cuz there's no guarantee that the theater in NOLA has any records of anything
2008-04-15 10618, 2008
BrianFreud
maybe the only one I have that does surprise me noone entered it yet is "The Young Glenn Gould: Recordings 1947 to 1953"
2008-04-15 10650, 2008
yllona
that would be a lot of work to do well
2008-04-15 10602, 2008
BrianFreud
true... the Gould/Guerrero details there are confused
2008-04-15 10623, 2008
yllona
and what about the legendary 1964 "carmen" again karajan/berlin phil, with leontyne price.. i'd be certifiably crazy after entering that one
2008-04-15 10635, 2008
BrianFreud
:D
2008-04-15 10622, 2008
yllona
leontyne price, franco corelli, and robert merill. pretty much a dream team :)
2008-04-15 10629, 2008
BrianFreud
this one should be fun, if only for everything being in cyrillic: Tchaikovsky - Complete Symphonies (Russian National Orchestra, Mikhail Pletnev) (5 cd set)
2008-04-15 10658, 2008
CatCat
<3
2008-04-15 10615, 2008
CatCat
the reason i havent adde stuff is.. cd lockup not working on ppc mac
2008-04-15 10625, 2008
CatCat is waitign for that
2008-04-15 10624, 2008
BrianFreud
why not enter them ahead of time, so they're there to find when you do the toc lookup?
2008-04-15 10643, 2008
warp has entered lots of stuff without toc because he didn't have a working cd lookup.
2008-04-15 10648, 2008
CatCat
i need the toc to focus on one thing
2008-04-15 10650, 2008
CatCat
/lazy
2008-04-15 10652, 2008
yllona
what about the six disc jaqueline dupre: elgar, delies, saint-saens, dvorak, schumann, chopin, franck, bach, and beethoven. each with different orchestras
2008-04-15 10654, 2008
warp
:)
2008-04-15 10658, 2008
BrianFreud
lol, yeah, or I have 4 different Haydn Piano Sonatas sets, each a diff performer - Schornsheim, Brendel, Staier, and Schirmer :P
2008-04-15 10605, 2008
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BrianFreud is realizing that most of the stuff that he has that's not yet entered is prob cause it's the stuff that's the most of a pain to enter in the first place
2008-04-15 10643, 2008
BrianFreud Milton Babbitt - Ensembles for Synthesizer (from "John Cage - Henri Pousseur - Milton Babbitt") (10:44)
2008-04-15 10615, 2008
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mudcrow moves the track Michael to the correct Highwaymen entry, for the millionth time
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yllona
BrianFreud: also sitting in pile nearby -- some phillip glass: uakti and itaipu. have you worked thru these with AR's?
2008-04-15 10653, 2008
yllona
okay, to answer my own question. itaipu isn't even listed in the DB, and uakti has no ARs
There's been a merge and the editor asks the same thing there.
2008-04-15 10656, 2008
luks
I guess music is classical or not classical, not composers
2008-04-15 10608, 2008
yllona
thanks srotta
2008-04-15 10624, 2008
srotta
Apparently it was considered a good choice :P
2008-04-15 10633, 2008
BrianFreud
I don't know the work, but I'd tend to think of just about anything I've heard of Glass' "classical"
2008-04-15 10613, 2008
yllona
yes. contemporary classical, or modern classical, if you will
2008-04-15 10623, 2008
srotta
I tend to think the whole classical vs. everything else expectwhenitsconsideredsuitable problematic. 8)
2008-04-15 10643, 2008
yllona
srotta: absolutely. it's a mess
2008-04-15 10605, 2008
BrianFreud
well, 20th centry classical especially, it's much less 'distinct'
2008-04-15 10624, 2008
yllona
BrianFreud: agreed.
2008-04-15 10653, 2008
BrianFreud
ie, say Milton Babbitt - "early electronica" or "20th century classical"?
2008-04-15 10613, 2008
yllona goes to look at john adams, just to get crazy. pours cocktail for sustenance
2008-04-15 10645, 2008
BrianFreud
lol, at least the John Adams I've worked on I've considered classical
2008-04-15 10611, 2008
yllona
BrianFreud: babbit == classical in my mind, same with john adams synthesizer works
2008-04-15 10636, 2008
BrianFreud
mine too, but I could see a strong counterargument made
2008-04-15 10646, 2008
yllona
based on?
2008-04-15 10658, 2008
BrianFreud
some sort of electronica argument
2008-04-15 10606, 2008
yllona
and what about tod mahover?
2008-04-15 10613, 2008
BrianFreud
don't know him
2008-04-15 10618, 2008
yllona
*machover
2008-04-15 10641, 2008
BrianFreud
Then you get the funky ones like Uri Caine
2008-04-15 10659, 2008
yllona
director of the MIT media Lab. composer of the first "computer opera" -- Valis
2008-04-15 10618, 2008
BrianFreud
based on the book of the same name, by any chance?
2008-04-15 10630, 2008
yllona
BrianFreud: yes
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BrianFreud hides
2008-04-15 10653, 2008
BrianFreud
that book (trilogy) drove me nuts
2008-04-15 10611, 2008
yllona
Uri Caine is a consrvatory trained jazz musician. fully capable of writing in t he "european classical" tradition
2008-04-15 10651, 2008
BrianFreud
I was thinking more of the recent "experimental interpretations" of Mozart by the Uri Caine Ensemble
2008-04-15 10608, 2008
yllona
as is wynton marsalis, charles mingus, herbie hancock. i could go on forever here, but i should grab that cocktail :P
2008-04-15 10653, 2008
yllona
have you heard keith jarrett's Mozart solo piano? he can hang too :)
2008-04-15 10623, 2008
BrianFreud Arie der Königin der Nacht (Zauberflöte) - (Uri Caine Ensemble - Mozart 2007-03-31: Cully Jazz Festival, CH)
2008-04-15 10631, 2008
BrianFreud
hideous tags yet, but you get the idea :)
2008-04-15 10641, 2008
BrianFreud
Mozart turned jazz and played on piano, drums, clarinet, violin, trumpet, electric guitar, and bass :D
2008-04-15 10637, 2008
CatCat
cool
2008-04-15 10638, 2008
CatCat
:o
2008-04-15 10602, 2008
yllona
so it seems to me that the MB designation of "classical" is waht Yo Yo Ma laughingly refres to as "Music by dead white guys" :P
2008-04-15 10648, 2008
BrianFreud
I don't think that's the definition so much as the "easy to recognize" group
2008-04-15 10604, 2008
yllona
that too.
2008-04-15 10620, 2008
luks
MB doesn't have a definition of classical, as far as I know
2008-04-15 10632, 2008
luks
fortunatelly :)
2008-04-15 10652, 2008
luks
because the discussion how should it be worded would never end
2008-04-15 10658, 2008
BrianFreud
I think it's more what happens when you take jazz, r&b, and rock, and apply not just concepts from classical, but actually start reinterpreting classical works, and what "classical" is anyhow
2008-04-15 10611, 2008
yllona
certainly wynton marsallis' and wayne shorter's string concertos can hold their own with teh best in the 20th century canon
2008-04-15 10634, 2008
BrianFreud
ELO performing Pictures at an Exhibition... I still never am sure how to assign artist on stuff like that
2008-04-15 10626, 2008
BrianFreud
though, I'd still love to just drop the "artist" concept and just rotate ARs... much easier :D
2008-04-15 10646, 2008
yllona
well aside from the fact that the ELP interpretation is really poor, it providing clarity on the arrangement. it's not muzorsky, but a later (and more popular) arrangement
2008-04-15 10650, 2008
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BrianFreud happens to like the ELP interpretation :D
2008-04-15 10637, 2008
BrianFreud
pretty much wore through several LPs of it in high school, lol
2008-04-15 10620, 2008
yllona
oh it was great in high school, i'll give you that.
2008-04-15 10636, 2008
yllona
and i was in high school when it was first released
2008-04-15 10639, 2008
BrianFreud
*rolls eyes* lol
2008-04-15 10640, 2008
yllona
:)
2008-04-15 10609, 2008
yllona
but i just listened to it again recently... it's not gaing well
2008-04-15 10614, 2008
yllona
*aging well
2008-04-15 10659, 2008
yllona
and i *love* ELP. The YES classical covers don't sound so good either after 30 years
2008-04-15 10614, 2008
BrianFreud goes to brew a pot of the water o' life
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yllona just put together a collection for a friends upcoming 50th b'day.
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FauxFaux
BrianFreud: You can brew coke?!
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nikki
sure, how do you think they originally made it?
2008-04-15 10626, 2008
nikki
they didn't have magic wands back then!
2008-04-15 10630, 2008
creature
Doesn't it come from a magical land of polar bears and pixies?
2008-04-15 10635, 2008
FauxFaux
I was always under the impression that it started as the blood of Jesus Christ himself.
2008-04-15 10635, 2008
creature
I've seen it on the adverts, so it must be true.
2008-04-15 10639, 2008
yllona
nikki: with actual cocaine :P
2008-04-15 10612, 2008
Muz
Mmm cool refreshing tooth rottingly good cock
2008-04-15 10616, 2008
yllona
coca-cola can clean an automobile engine block
2008-04-15 10642, 2008
BrianFreud is quite happy letting the coffee clean him in the morning, and the coke clean him in the eventing
