#musicbrainz

Shepard` is now known as Shepard

hey nikki :)

I only want to know one thing... How is it possible that my music tastes are so odd that given the size of the db, so much of my music still isn't already in there? :D

because you havent added it yet

how many you at at the moment?

nikki_ is now known as nikki

maybe 950, but some of those have dirs within dirs

/me is looking at the legendary 1962 recording of "Tosca" with leontyne price von karajan conducting the berlin phil... and just can't muster the energy to add a release with that many necessary ARs :)

that's why you have more music locally than in MB

lol

yeah, my current must add but don't wanna is Domenico Scarlatti - Keyboard Sonatas performed by Pier-Jan Belder - 38 cd set

least the Scarlatti K #'s are less confusing :D

i also have the 1979 Aida with mirella freni and jose carreras, again von karajan /berlin phil

itting right on my desk... but hey.

and another von karajan/berlin phil, pelleas and melisande with frederica von stade

yeah, on the positive side, none of the remainder is "doh, how do we not yet have that listed?" stuff

also from 1979

lots of classical, or things like John Cage - Works for Percussion (Quatuor Helios), Hector Zazou - Songs from the Cold Seas, or specific casts for musicals (Jesus Christ Superstar, 2003 New Orleans cast anyone? :D)

that JCS would be the national touring cast for that year

yes

if things were back to normal in new orleans i'd just call the theater for you :(

(cast recording, so even less likely it'd already be entered)

nah, I have the details, just have yet to enter it

cool. 'cuz there's no guarantee that the theater in NOLA has any records of anything

maybe the only one I have that does surprise me noone entered it yet is "The Young Glenn Gould: Recordings 1947 to 1953"

that would be a lot of work to do well

true... the Gould/Guerrero details there are confused

and what about the legendary 1964 "carmen" again karajan/berlin phil, with leontyne price.. i'd be certifiably crazy after entering that one

:D

leontyne price, franco corelli, and robert merill. pretty much a dream team :)

this one should be fun, if only for everything being in cyrillic: Tchaikovsky - Complete Symphonies (Russian National Orchestra, Mikhail Pletnev) (5 cd set)

<3

the reason i havent adde stuff is.. cd lockup not working on ppc mac

why not enter them ahead of time, so they're there to find when you do the toc lookup?

i need the toc to focus on one thing

/lazy

what about the six disc jaqueline dupre: elgar, delies, saint-saens, dvorak, schumann, chopin, franck, bach, and beethoven. each with different orchestras

:)

lol, yeah, or I have 4 different Haydn Piano Sonatas sets, each a diff performer - Schornsheim, Brendel, Staier, and Schirmer :P

BrianFreud: also sitting in pile nearby -- some phillip glass: uakti and itaipu. have you worked thru these with AR's?

okay, to answer my own question. itaipu isn't even listed in the DB, and uakti has no ARs

http://musicbrainz.org/release/8f120dd6-f0cc-4a... ?

luks: i got i backwards, itaipu has no ARs, and uakti isn't there, sorru

*sorry

you mean http://musicbrainz.org/release/ed117f20-0ea7-4c... ? :)

i can add the ARs for itaipu

don't know much about glass, but it seems to be the only release done together with aukti

luks: yes but why is it listed by and not glass? diesn't the composer as artist rule apply here

I don't know, but to me it looks like it was released as a Uakti release

my CD says "music composed by philip glass"

right on the front cover, and it's the same cover as in the MB link

the CD also says aukti in much bigger font

yllona, no, haven't done much of anything with glass. Thinking Cage may be the next modern composer I do much with

luks: but the text: music composed by? does it get more obvious than that??

well, to me is says "this is a aukti release, with music composed by phillip glass"

so aukti is the release artist

and glass should be credited via a "composed by" AR

i'm just confused, is all. glass isn't considered classical enough?

There's been a merge and the editor asks the same thing there.

I guess music is classical or not classical, not composers

thanks srotta

Apparently it was considered a good choice :P

I don't know the work, but I'd tend to think of just about anything I've heard of Glass' "classical"

yes. contemporary classical, or modern classical, if you will

I tend to think the whole classical vs. everything else expectwhenitsconsideredsuitable problematic. 8)

srotta: absolutely. it's a mess

well, 20th centry classical especially, it's much less 'distinct'

BrianFreud: agreed.

ie, say Milton Babbitt - "early electronica" or "20th century classical"?

lol, at least the John Adams I've worked on I've considered classical

BrianFreud: babbit == classical in my mind, same with john adams synthesizer works

mine too, but I could see a strong counterargument made

based on?

some sort of electronica argument

and what about tod mahover?

don't know him

*machover

Then you get the funky ones like Uri Caine

director of the MIT media Lab. composer of the first "computer opera" -- Valis

based on the book of the same name, by any chance?

BrianFreud: yes

that book (trilogy) drove me nuts

Uri Caine is a consrvatory trained jazz musician. fully capable of writing in t he "european classical" tradition

I was thinking more of the recent "experimental interpretations" of Mozart by the Uri Caine Ensemble

as is wynton marsalis, charles mingus, herbie hancock. i could go on forever here, but i should grab that cocktail :P

have you heard keith jarrett's Mozart solo piano? he can hang too :)

hideous tags yet, but you get the idea :)

Mozart turned jazz and played on piano, drums, clarinet, violin, trumpet, electric guitar, and bass :D

cool

:o

so it seems to me that the MB designation of "classical" is waht Yo Yo Ma laughingly refres to as "Music by dead white guys" :P

I don't think that's the definition so much as the "easy to recognize" group

that too.

MB doesn't have a definition of classical, as far as I know

fortunatelly :)

because the discussion how should it be worded would never end

I think it's more what happens when you take jazz, r&b, and rock, and apply not just concepts from classical, but actually start reinterpreting classical works, and what "classical" is anyhow

certainly wynton marsallis' and wayne shorter's string concertos can hold their own with teh best in the 20th century canon

ELO performing Pictures at an Exhibition... I still never am sure how to assign artist on stuff like that

though, I'd still love to just drop the "artist" concept and just rotate ARs... much easier :D

well aside from the fact that the ELP interpretation is really poor, it providing clarity on the arrangement. it's not muzorsky, but a later (and more popular) arrangement

pretty much wore through several LPs of it in high school, lol

oh it was great in high school, i'll give you that.

and i was in high school when it was first released

:)

but i just listened to it again recently... it's not gaing well

*aging well

and i *love* ELP. The YES classical covers don't sound so good either after 30 years

BrianFreud: You can brew coke?!

sure, how do you think they originally made it?

they didn't have magic wands back then!

Doesn't it come from a magical land of polar bears and pixies?

I was always under the impression that it started as the blood of Jesus Christ himself.

I've seen it on the adverts, so it must be true.

nikki: with actual cocaine :P

Mmm cool refreshing tooth rottingly good cock

coca-cola can clean an automobile engine block

keeps my engines running

but very funny