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      • ruaok
        didn't we do that a while back?
      • 2008-02-19 05031, 2008

      • ruaok
        google maps doesn't recognize kosovo yet.
      • 2008-02-19 05040, 2008

      • nikki
        anyway, it'd probably take a few months before any codes are assigned
      • 2008-02-19 05046, 2008

      • Tykling has left the channel
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      • nikki
        iirc, when serbia and montenegro split it was june and they didn't get codes until september
      • 2008-02-19 05052, 2008

      • Kanmu has quit
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      • ruaok
        mbdb5=> select * from country where isocode = 'ME';
      • 2008-02-19 05059, 2008

      • ruaok
        247 | ME | Montenegro
      • 2008-02-19 05002, 2008

      • nikki
        ahh
      • 2008-02-19 05021, 2008

      • nikki
        oh, that's a thing
      • 2008-02-19 05028, 2008

      • nikki
        the languages list needs updating
      • 2008-02-19 05058, 2008

      • nikki
        do I just create a list of sql update thingies and send it to you?
      • 2008-02-19 05008, 2008

      • nikki
        they added swiss german :D
      • 2008-02-19 05012, 2008

      • ruaok
        sure.
      • 2008-02-19 05018, 2008

      • ruaok
        wha? thats odd.
      • 2008-02-19 05021, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        swiss german is now a language? there are like 100 different types of swiss german and there's no gramar and no dictionary
      • 2008-02-19 05041, 2008

      • ruaok
        ding!
      • 2008-02-19 05012, 2008

      • nikki
        that doesn't mean it's the same as hochdeutsch
      • 2008-02-19 05036, 2008

      • ruaok
        but the grammar is the same.
      • 2008-02-19 05040, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        well swiss people do use hochdeutsch as the official language
      • 2008-02-19 05059, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        well there are small differences. like there's no ß in switzerland
      • 2008-02-19 05055, 2008

      • nikki
        well, effectively, norwegian = danish = swedish and croatian = bosnian = serbian = montenegrin and czech = slovak
      • 2008-02-19 05024, 2008

      • nikki
        but from what I've heard, people who don't speak swiss german have a hell of a time understanding people who are speaking it
      • 2008-02-19 05041, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        true
      • 2008-02-19 05018, 2008

      • ruaok raises his hank
      • 2008-02-19 05022, 2008

      • ruaok
        hand
      • 2008-02-19 05033, 2008

      • ruaok
        understanding keschte was always challenging
      • 2008-02-19 05054, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        what is keschte
      • 2008-02-19 05013, 2008

      • nikki
        it doesn't really matter that there's no formal version, they just decided that it's distinct enough from hochdeutsch to count separately
      • 2008-02-19 05014, 2008

      • ruaok
        a former swiss contributor to MB
      • 2008-02-19 05054, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        ah
      • 2008-02-19 05017, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        he was speaking swiss german in here?
      • 2008-02-19 05046, 2008

      • ruaok
        well, just german.
      • 2008-02-19 05056, 2008

      • ruaok
        his typing did sound a little funky though. :)
      • 2008-02-19 05002, 2008

      • ruaok
        gel?
      • 2008-02-19 05008, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        ^^
      • 2008-02-19 05044, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        It's funny, I have a hard time understanding the lyrics of "Generals" on Take London... but it seems like other people do, too http://lyricwiki.org/The_Herbaliser:Generals
      • 2008-02-19 05027, 2008

      • nikki
        I wish we had iso 639-3, then I could set albums to kölsch... but iso 639-3 is so bloody big, even I haven't heard of most of the stuff in it
      • 2008-02-19 05043, 2008

      • ruaok
        ick.
      • 2008-02-19 05055, 2008

      • ruaok
        kölsch, the beer, is nasty.
      • 2008-02-19 05007, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        "set albums to kölsch" ?
      • 2008-02-19 05021, 2008

      • ruaok
        "to make a drinking song"
      • 2008-02-19 05027, 2008

      • ruaok
        I think is what she means.
      • 2008-02-19 05047, 2008

      • nikki
        neeeein! the dialect
      • 2008-02-19 05055, 2008

      • ruaok chuckles
      • 2008-02-19 05004, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        "schenke ein, schenke ein, schenke ein...*
      • 2008-02-19 05014, 2008

      • nikki
        I can't make beer out of CDs!
      • 2008-02-19 05018, 2008

      • nikki
        leider leider...
      • 2008-02-19 05024, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        but you can use them as bierdeckel
      • 2008-02-19 05046, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        ...and put a straw through the hole
      • 2008-02-19 05000, 2008

      • nikki
        have you seen that before?
      • 2008-02-19 05053, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        never seen that... there's a funny thing like that for switzerland, too
      • 2008-02-19 05005, 2008

      • nikki chuckles
      • 2008-02-19 05009, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
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      • nikki
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      • Shapeshifter
        bierplattl :) cute
      • 2008-02-19 05033, 2008

      • gioele has quit
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      • Shapeshifter
        by the way, in taht chuchichäschtli-orakel, you would supposedly enter the word closest to you spoken dialect... but some of the words I use aren't even in there... Still, the orakel is quite accurate ^^
      • 2008-02-19 05008, 2008

      • CatCat
        ruaok!
      • 2008-02-19 05014, 2008

      • ruaok runs
      • 2008-02-19 05024, 2008

      • CatCat
        noes
      • 2008-02-19 05036, 2008

      • CatCat
        see when you mentioned the band thing
      • 2008-02-19 05052, 2008

      • CatCat
        ruaok quick question -- what is the current convention to handle this: "Some bands have dates like "1965-1972, 2003+", ...
      • 2008-02-19 05002, 2008

      • CatCat
        this is something i really want to talk to yo uabout
      • 2008-02-19 05003, 2008

      • ruaok
        ya?
      • 2008-02-19 05019, 2008

      • CatCat
        it would, seriously really be awsomly great to be able to have several date ranges fro bands
      • 2008-02-19 05023, 2008

      • CatCat
        only bandsofcourse
      • 2008-02-19 05029, 2008

      • ruaok
        understood.
      • 2008-02-19 05051, 2008

      • CatCat
        because doing it with AR's and ignoring bits inside.. well its not really correct
      • 2008-02-19 05058, 2008

      • ruaok
        understood.
      • 2008-02-19 05059, 2008

      • CatCat
        first idea of the top of my head
      • 2008-02-19 05002, 2008

      • CatCat
        Deep Purple
      • 2008-02-19 05011, 2008

      • ruaok
        in order to do this right we need to have dates attributes on ARs.
      • 2008-02-19 05026, 2008

      • CatCat
        stopped palying in uh was it dunno and reunited in '84
      • 2008-02-19 05043, 2008

      • CatCat
        there are date atributes on ar's?
      • 2008-02-19 05051, 2008

      • ruaok
        no
      • 2008-02-19 05057, 2008

      • CatCat
        uh...
      • 2008-02-19 05057, 2008

      • ruaok
        but there should be to fix this.
      • 2008-02-19 05020, 2008

      • CatCat
        its even possible to add a date atribute to "dude perforemed trumped on album x"
      • 2008-02-19 05032, 2008

      • CatCat
        ruaok..
      • 2008-02-19 05035, 2008

      • CatCat
        there is
      • 2008-02-19 05047, 2008

      • CatCat
        what do you mean?
      • 2008-02-19 05017, 2008

      • ruaok
        right now we can only have a instrument/vocal type attribute on an AR.
      • 2008-02-19 05023, 2008

      • ruaok
        we also need a date.
      • 2008-02-19 05040, 2008

      • ruaok
        so we can say. dissoved in 2001. reformed in 2004
      • 2008-02-19 05045, 2008

      • CatCat
        i think that in the artist itself. it can have a end and beginnig date
      • 2008-02-19 05053, 2008

      • CatCat
        ..
      • 2008-02-19 05057, 2008

      • ruaok
        and the artist can say being in 1980, end 2007
      • 2008-02-19 05002, 2008

      • CatCat
        do you eman ar liek artist<->date
      • 2008-02-19 05007, 2008

      • CatCat
        like artist<->album
      • 2008-02-19 05008, 2008

      • ruaok
        no
      • 2008-02-19 05022, 2008

      • CatCat
        ......
      • 2008-02-19 05028, 2008

      • CatCat
        but you *can* do that
      • 2008-02-19 05031, 2008

      • ruaok
        yes
      • 2008-02-19 05034, 2008

      • CatCat
        there *is* dates on ars
      • 2008-02-19 05044, 2008

      • ruaok
        got link?
      • 2008-02-19 05050, 2008

      • CatCat
        any ar dude
      • 2008-02-19 05008, 2008

      • CatCat
        i do belive i am missunderstanding you
      • 2008-02-19 05031, 2008

      • ruaok
        almost certainly
      • 2008-02-19 05055, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
        huh. so CatCat isn't a bot after all
      • 2008-02-19 05006, 2008

      • CatCat
        funny ha ha
      • 2008-02-19 05019, 2008

      • CatCat
      • 2008-02-19 05031, 2008

      • CatCat
        now explain what yo ureally meant :)
      • 2008-02-19 05042, 2008

      • nikki chuckles
      • 2008-02-19 05053, 2008

      • nikki is imagining multiple dates on a person
      • 2008-02-19 05006, 2008

      • CatCat
        lol
      • 2008-02-19 05011, 2008

      • ruaok
        wow. check it.
      • 2008-02-19 05013, 2008

      • CatCat
        thats what i emant with only groups
      • 2008-02-19 05025, 2008

      • ruaok
        I didn't realize luks added those.
      • 2008-02-19 05028, 2008

      • CatCat
        we dont reanimate artists. yet :)
      • 2008-02-19 05032, 2008

      • CatCat
        hah
      • 2008-02-19 05048, 2008

      • CatCat
        dude, seriously.
      • 2008-02-19 05059, 2008

      • CatCat
        you need to paly with the *data* alittle more :)
      • 2008-02-19 05018, 2008

      • CatCat belives it when ruaok says he deoesnt know jack shit abotu editing musicbrainz :)
      • 2008-02-19 05024, 2008

      • ruaok has quit
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      • CatCat
        :p
      • 2008-02-19 05034, 2008

      • CatCat
        i didn't mean it liek *that* :(
      • 2008-02-19 05003, 2008

      • Jormangeud has quit
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      • CatCat
        :(
      • 2008-02-19 05000, 2008

      • CatCat
        uh, ruaok, if/when you reads the logs uh... what happened?
      • 2008-02-19 05026, 2008

      • CatCat
        did the internet funk up or something? :(
      • 2008-02-19 05035, 2008

      • brianfreud
        I see you
      • 2008-02-19 05043, 2008

      • CatCat
        o:O
      • 2008-02-19 05049, 2008

      • CatCat
        uh...
      • 2008-02-19 05020, 2008

      • Shapeshifter
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      • CatCat shrugs
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      • drsaunde
        catcat: that's nothing
      • 2008-02-19 05037, 2008

      • drsaunde
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      • brianfreud
        hey ruaok, why doesn't /<?b?>/ work? Trying to match <b>, <br>, and </b>
      • 2008-02-19 05034, 2008

      • ruaok
        should work.
      • 2008-02-19 05039, 2008

      • ruaok
        grrr
      • 2008-02-19 05045, 2008

      • ruaok
        <.b.>
      • 2008-02-19 05035, 2008

      • ruaok
        but that could also match others that you may not want.
      • 2008-02-19 05019, 2008

      • FauxFaux peers at both of you.
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      • ruaok pears back
      • 2008-02-19 05047, 2008

      • ruaok
        with unripe, rock hard pears too
      • 2008-02-19 05054, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        #</?br?>#
      • 2008-02-19 05034, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Hmm, what's changed that makes http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/FauxFaux/LanguageSear… not work? /me goes to check nobody changed the language ids.
      • 2008-02-19 05051, 2008

      • ruaok runs away
      • 2008-02-19 05033, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Not in /my/ database.
      • 2008-02-19 05041, 2008

      • ruaok
        phew.
      • 2008-02-19 05054, 2008

      • CatCat
        @_@
      • 2008-02-19 05002, 2008

      • CatCat
        are you's angries at me?
      • 2008-02-19 05004, 2008

      • ruaok really runs for now