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      • tru
      • 2008-03-01 06129, 2008

      • tru
        the first cd is called memorias atras, and the second is called "the day the warld stopped" should it be added as two different releases or something like Memorias Atras (disc 1) and Memorias Atras (disc 2: the day the world stopped)
      • 2008-03-01 06101, 2008

      • MClemo
        ah, ok. Has it one major release name on the front cover? Then use "Major Release Title (disc 2: The Day the World Stopped)"
      • 2008-03-01 06138, 2008

      • MClemo
        Memorias Atras is that name, I guess
      • 2008-03-01 06113, 2008

      • tru
        yeah, that's right.
      • 2008-03-01 06129, 2008

      • MClemo
        probably "Memorias Atras" (with the right accent) and "Memorias Atras (bonus disc: The Day the World Stopped)" then
      • 2008-03-01 06143, 2008

      • tru
        what should the attribute release be set to on the second disc? remix or album?
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      • MClemo
        is it a remix of the first disc?
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      • tru
        4 out of 6 songs are remixes.
      • 2008-03-01 06129, 2008

      • tru
        the others are new (bonus b sides kind of stuff)
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      • MClemo
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      • tru
      • 2008-03-01 06116, 2008

      • MClemo
        do you have the original discs?
      • 2008-03-01 06156, 2008

      • MClemo
        then attach the disc id for track durations
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      • tru
        yeah I will, but I don't have a cd player here :)
      • 2008-03-01 06152, 2008

      • MClemo
        I think "bonus disc" would have been better for the second disc
      • 2008-03-01 06117, 2008

      • MClemo
        as you didn't use "disc 1" on the first either
      • 2008-03-01 06126, 2008

      • MClemo
        my comment before might have been confusing
      • 2008-03-01 06106, 2008

      • tru
        mhm. please put it as a comment to the note. so that I can learn :)
      • 2008-03-01 06113, 2008

      • MClemo
        will do
      • 2008-03-01 06159, 2008

      • MClemo
        but you got a cd drive in your computer and use picard, right?
      • 2008-03-01 06119, 2008

      • MClemo
        then attaching the disc id is easy :)
      • 2008-03-01 06125, 2008

      • tru
        nah, I have a macbook air without CD drive :)
      • 2008-03-01 06146, 2008

      • tru
        bbl
      • 2008-03-01 06114, 2008

      • MClemo
        bye
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      • CatCat
        computer witouth cddrive = ftl
      • 2008-03-01 06134, 2008

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      • srotta
        Hmm. It always makes me wonder a bit when a single PUID has suddenly been added to multiple tracks in the database.
      • 2008-03-01 06105, 2008

      • srotta
        Do people really add them in bursts, or is someone adding the same track into multiple releases. Or is it just some random fan who has discovered MusicBrainz and tags his whole Oasis collection, including several various artists compilations.
      • 2008-03-01 06141, 2008

      • srotta
        For example, this PUID http://musicbrainz.org/show/puid/?puid=6d0d2d10-c… has been added to six releases since yesterday.
      • 2008-03-01 06101, 2008

      • MClemo
        I often add PUIDs to a whole bunch of releases in a row
      • 2008-03-01 06124, 2008

      • srotta
        So do I, but do all of them have the same track, that produces the same PUID?
      • 2008-03-01 06113, 2008

      • srotta
        It's possible, of course, no doubt about that, but there have been several of those lately, and it makes me think someone's adding PUIDs to all tracks in the database.
      • 2008-03-01 06130, 2008

      • MClemo
        that's a bit suspicious, true
      • 2008-03-01 06156, 2008

      • srotta
        And it's still damn hard to find the guy who's doing the submitting.
      • 2008-03-01 06112, 2008

      • MClemo
        yeah, no edit history for PUIDs
      • 2008-03-01 06120, 2008

      • srotta
        Well, I've got nothing but time, so I'll go and search that PUID.
      • 2008-03-01 06121, 2008

      • srotta
        :P
      • 2008-03-01 06135, 2008

      • MClemo
        good luck ;)
      • 2008-03-01 06158, 2008

      • Tykling
        is the website slow today ?
      • 2008-03-01 06106, 2008

      • Tykling
        getting annoyed here
      • 2008-03-01 06107, 2008

      • Tykling
        :>
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      • Muzzz
        Pretty speedy for me here
      • 2008-03-01 06147, 2008

      • Tykling
        ok
      • 2008-03-01 06105, 2008

      • srotta
        I thought Firefox was to blame for the slowness of my machine, since it hogs so much memory.
      • 2008-03-01 06105, 2008

      • Tykling
        question, I added this VA release with "various artists" as the album artist, found out it shouldv'e been "organiseret riminalitet" as albumartist, cancelled the edits but the release still remains on MB, when will it dissappear so I can add it properly ? http://musicbrainz.org/release/ec561675-d45c-4a4d…
      • 2008-03-01 06126, 2008

      • srotta
        But now I see it's just me - I moved to Opera, and now it takes around 350MB of memory.
      • 2008-03-01 06120, 2008

      • srotta
        Tykling: Edits get cancelled every hour or so, I think.
      • 2008-03-01 06137, 2008

      • Tykling
        ok thank you, I'll just add something else meanwhile then :)
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      • Citizen
        hi
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      • Citizen
        I want to add a new release and I'm not sure how to handle the title... Main title is "Down the Road...!" and subtitle is "Live at the Ahoy Rotterdam 8.3.'93" - how should it be added? subtitle in brackets maybe?
      • 2008-03-01 06151, 2008

      • creature
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      • Citizen
        ah, thanks
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      • omgyja
        hi guys, where i can find most recent beta for picart ( windows installer ) thanks for answer
      • 2008-03-01 06106, 2008

      • HairMetalAddict
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      • omgyja
        thi is stable, i want beta, for testing
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      • FauxFaux
        omgyja: There aren't official betas as far as I know, you'll have to build it yourself, have fun with that.
      • 2008-03-01 06148, 2008

      • creature
        Do EMI embed their catalogue numbers in the barcode?
      • 2008-03-01 06111, 2008

      • creature
        This release doesn't seem to have one, but it does have certain digits of the barcode repeated in bold.
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      • omgyja
        FauxFaux: ouch :) and some tutorial, how to do this ?
      • 2008-03-01 06101, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Nope.
      • 2008-03-01 06134, 2008

      • mudcrow
        creature: EMI use bar code as cat number
      • 2008-03-01 06150, 2008

      • creature
        The whole barcode?
      • 2008-03-01 06148, 2008

      • mudcrow
        is the whole barcode only listed on the release or is it shortened anywhere? if it isnt use the whole barcode
      • 2008-03-01 06121, 2008

      • mudcrow
        or see how its listed at http://www.esounds.com/esounds/en/ if its a uk release
      • 2008-03-01 06139, 2008

      • creature
        It only has the whole barcode listed, but the numbers '5 85901 2' are listed in bold everywhere it appears (apart from in the barcode itself).
      • 2008-03-01 06156, 2008

      • mudcrow
        whats the artist name?
      • 2008-03-01 06110, 2008

      • creature
        Uhm.
      • 2008-03-01 06128, 2008

      • creature
        It is a recording of Gustav Mahler's Symphony No. 10 by the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra.
      • 2008-03-01 06107, 2008

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      • mudcrow
        emi classics use the complete barcode as cat number. such as http://www.emiclassics.com/releasedetails.php?rid…
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      • creature
        OK, http://www.emiclassics.co.uk/release.php?id=14908 is the album in question, which gives the catalogue number as the abridged form.
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      • Jormangeud^
        Jormangeud^ is now known as Jormangeud
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      • thaidn
        hello everybody
      • 2008-03-01 06145, 2008

      • thaidn
        I'm setuping my musicbrainz mirror
      • 2008-03-01 06101, 2008

      • thaidn
        everything's ok so far
      • 2008-03-01 06122, 2008

      • thaidn
        the only left problem is I don't know how to setup the lucene server with apache + mod_python
      • 2008-03-01 06150, 2008

      • thaidn
        there's some docs but they're about running fastcgi
      • 2008-03-01 06110, 2008

      • thaidn
        is there anybody know how to setup the musicbrainz lucene server with apache + mod_python?
      • 2008-03-01 06128, 2008

      • warp
        mod_python :(
      • 2008-03-01 06154, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Isn't mod_python really fail, even more so than, like, all the other modules?
      • 2008-03-01 06123, 2008

      • warp
        thaidn: I have no idea, ruaok will k
      • 2008-03-01 06134, 2008

      • warp
        know.
      • 2008-03-01 06104, 2008

      • thaidn
        FauxFaux: I don't think so, I've been running django with mod-python for months without no crash
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      • srotta
        nikki: I updated the lists, UTF-8 should now work.
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      • nikki
        yay :D
      • 2008-03-01 06142, 2008

      • nikki
        what's the link again?
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      • srotta
        More artists than yesterday \o/
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      • srotta
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      • nikki
        btw, the last link is 18 and not 20
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      • nikki
        yay, works ok now :D
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      • srotta
        Heh, thanks 8)
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      • BrianFreudf
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      • srotta
        BrianFreudf: Yeah, I found it, but there was apparently something wrong in my script, since I didn't find any others from recent days.
      • 2008-03-01 06108, 2008

      • srotta
        BrianFreudf: Thanks anyway 8)
      • 2008-03-01 06105, 2008

      • CatCat
        uhh.. natta
      • 2008-03-01 06148, 2008

      • creature
        BrianFreudf: about?
      • 2008-03-01 06138, 2008

      • creature
        OK, well, this is probably a more general question anyway. I have a 4-disc set of Bach's well-tempered clavier. See http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bach-Wohltemperierte-Klav…
      • 2008-03-01 06156, 2008

      • creature
        (Note difference between Amazon title and that on the cover art).
      • 2008-03-01 06132, 2008

      • creature
        I *think* this is the same release as http://musicbrainz.org/release/7692f35f-04b7-4971… but I'm not sure. The disc ID differs, and the track times on the MB page are quite adrift from those given in the liner notes.
      • 2008-03-01 06157, 2008

      • creature
        Plus that MB release is not in line with the CSG. Should I attempt to fix up the existing release or create a new one?
      • 2008-03-01 06147, 2008

      • MClemo
        creature: if the track times don't match, rather add a new one
      • 2008-03-01 06101, 2008

      • creature
        MClemo: Even though it's the same piece and same performer?
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      • MClemo
        you'd have to do some 30 edits to make it right anyway
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      • MClemo
        how much do the track times differ?
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      • creature
        Take track 24: the booklet lists it as 5.26, and the MP3 is 5.25. But that disc is listed as 1.54.
      • 2008-03-01 06142, 2008

      • MClemo
        that's not the same release/disc then
      • 2008-03-01 06113, 2008

      • MClemo
        it's in such a poor shape anyway that it's probably a candidate for removal
      • 2008-03-01 06124, 2008

      • creature
        I think that release is broken. I have no idea how you could get a 5 and a half minute fugue into 2 minutes.
      • 2008-03-01 06103, 2008

      • creature
        So how do albums get flagged as candidates for removal?
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      • creature
        OK, the other 3 discs for this aren't in MB at all.
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      • MClemo
        creature: err, you just make an edit to remove it. But it has a disc id and performer info so I'm not a hundred percent sure about removing it
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      • MClemo
        often discs are released in some box and as a single release, that doesn't say much
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      • creature
        OK, well, I guess I'll add mine separately, and then you more experienced MB people can jibble them together as best suits.