#musicbrainz

muz: i know there is a track in the database which has trackname (remix) , but the ')' is actually a mirrored '(' because most browsers for some reason flip parentheses back to normal if there is LTR on one side and RTL on the other.

alastairp: there are three musicbrainz soc projects, i think there is a post on the blog which points at each of the soc student blogs.

warp: ah, yep

Speaking of... FauxFaux?

\o/ Yay finally got external access to my home dev machine through a long series of reverse ssh tunnels and port forwards

lol

haha, that's always fun

Thinking about it, I'm 7 miles away from my home machine, yet this connection is going from here, to Germany, to the States and back to London :P

i can use warp [at frob.nl] for both email and ssh, and it's my host on irc too. \o/

muz: why?

warp, stupidly anal firewall issues within the office and my home connection being flaky, so two hops are needed

ok

Muz: so, you can't ssh out from the office, but you can in?

ah,

sounds like your home network needs some haxxing :)

Heh

since I moved I haven't been able to get my network back up to how it was

new flatmates get a little suspicious when I leave machines on in the wardrobe

Heheh

"it's not going to catch the house on fire is it?!"

general consumer pcs are quiet enough for the bedroom IMO

"Yes, it probably will."

warp, nowadays maybe

Well, you get used to it. And some models (and some manufacturers) are quieter than others.

i'm about to replace my old celeron with an old compaq dual pIII server, which definitely isn't :)

I've got some Pentium IIs in my living room that sound like a wind tunnel when they're turned on

warp: this is an old duron with a mad psu and 4 disks :(

s/mad/bad/

They also need the side taken off of the case for optimal cooling

I have a P4 in livingroom and Athlon X2 in my study.

Which makes it louder yet heh

And a Core Dual for desktop use. :P

The loudest is X2, but that's mostly because it has six HDDs inside.

muz: really? i thought that was worse for the airflow

(depends on the case ofcourse)

warp: "optimal" :)

these cases are... well... crap

Muz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RONJA

I think this is a far better solution than ssh tunnels

alastairp, hahah

Unfortunately, there's no clear line of sight from the office to home, too many tall buildings in the way

doh

If you could find a 7 mile stretch of land with a clear line of sight in London, I'd be surprised

most of them use visible light, that's awesome

hmm, true

you don't work in a high enough building :)

Freso?

FauxFaux: What was the link to the planet page again? :)

Muzzz: Re: scrollback, I'm sure someone claimed it was fine on the latest versions.

hi fauxfaux

\o/

\o/

oh gods i'm going to do that for reals everytime i do it in irc now becasue of you

Tee hee.

Muz: in regards to right to left, me and nikki spoke about that on the way to summit on saturday :)

I made sure to avoid mentioning it at the summit :D

aCiD2, or rob would have kicked you in the face :D

haha

[11:05] <FauxFaux> Muzzz: Re: scrollback, I'm sure someone claimed it was fine on the latest versions. <-- lolwut?

In regards to what FauxFaux? :P

11/23:22:19 < Muzzz> FauxFaux: do you know if the MB server runs fine on PGSQL 8.4?

But, yeah, as you said, it's not exactly out yet. :p

Ahhhh that

Yeah, I've got it running on 8.3 now :)

Replication is broken because of a foreign key restraint

I'm on 8.2.7 I think

Was your failure at importing being caused by that, you think?

and couldn't import all of the dumps

wah

My failure was caused by me using 7.4

Didn't support those unicode chars

Hehe.

Compiled 8.3 and all is well

(other than the foriegn key badger)

Compiled? Wtf distro are you using? :(

Lesbian!

<3 Gentoo

8.3 wasn't in repositories

8.2 and 8.3 are in the repository.

know, 'cos I'm using them.

aCiD2, you're digging yourself a hole. First perl, and now Gentoo?!

And I hack in Emacs!

And I own a Zune!

FauxFaux, hmmm, I would take you up on that, but I can't ssh home anymore, I think my home connection dropped :|

You're doing it so massively wrong.

You guys failed to raise me correctly

aCiD2, you're all that's wrong with the world

Yeah, packages.debian.org is down, too.

DOWNTIME DAY \o/

Oh, you're Lesbian site is down? Hmmm emerg --sync is fine..

aCiD2, in the amount of time it takes for you to compile all that, the repo'll be back :)

aCiD2: All the mirrors are fine, it's just the repo data search page, which would contain a big thing (http://packages.debian.org/postgresql-8.3) that tells you what versions it's in. =p

(YAy for a fortnight leighway)

Hah, it loaded here. 8.3.1-1 is in testing, 8.3.1-2+b1 in unstable.

And 8.3.1-1~bpo40+1 in backports, if you really don't want to run a pro version.

I'm using Lesbian stable :( I'm a loon, I know

Enotpro.

how long is a fortnight? woman on the plane next to me home said 14 days???

i thought it was like 2 days

2 weeks

So yeah, 14 days

lhmph

Fort as in forteen

silly

what you call the bith where you get there the one dy, sleep stay the whole next day and then leave the next day?

like i did in england

"madness"?

what *should* I have done then, muzmuz?

Stayed for longer \o/

yea, i wanted to, but my cats would starve :(

next time i'll arrange for someone comming to feed and clean up in theri toilet

i can stay longer then

the only stuff i watch nowa days are on mondays and wednesdays

Can anyone clarify exactly what work the BBC are doing - is it just packages?

aCiD2: packages?

what i understood at the summit: they're working on what they are calling 'cultural identifiers'

Which is another name for package, I thought

a cultural identifier is a stable mbid which represents e.g. a certain studio album, all different versions or releases will have that same cultural identifier.

Yes, I think that's a package

ok, i have no idea what a package is in NGS :)

I remember someone saying "which name do we prefer, cultural id or package"

heh

well, rob doesn't like cultural id, and the BBC is open for suggestions on that topic iirc

I don't like it either, but eh, it's just terminology