#musicbrainz

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      • navap
        lol :p
      • nikkeee
        haha
      • navap
        I'm just concerned that someone is going to come back not liking the edit..dunno how well pointing to that wiki will go over :p
      • The Common_sense one
      • lol they were both wiki links
      • nikkeee
        it
      • navap
        It's pretty obvious, IMO, when you look at the release. The title of the first track should be changed. http://musicbrainz.org/release/15436f95-6df1-47...
      • nikkeee
        it's the accepted way to enter stuff as far as I know... it makes the most sense to me
      • navap
        For "(vocal version feat. Ane Trolle)", the track version should be split from the feat right?
      • mikemorr
        It's the radio edit of the Trentemøller remix. There's no such thing as "Trentemøller remix radio".
      • (I think)
      • navap
        hm? It never was "Trentemøller remix radio", it had the "edit" at the end to start with.
      • mikemorr
        Right, that's what I mean :) It's not an "edit" of "Trentemøller remix radio". :P
      • I was deliberately misparsing it. I agree with luks and nikkeee.
      • :)
      • navap
        Oh you mean, if it was just (edit) at the end, yes then it would make even less sense than it did to begin with :p
      • mikemorr
        The vocal version one I'm not as sure about, though. If there is no vocal version unless Ane Trolle is there, I might leave it as is.
      • Which I would guess is probably the case.
      • navap
        Well thats when the order of the info comes in. If the original track has her, then the feat would go before the remix info. If she is there just because of the feat, she would go after the remix.
      • mikemorr
        OK, right, as long as the order is correct, I guess it doesn't matter very much whether they are in one set of parens or two separate ones.
      • http://musicbrainz.org/doc/TrackTitle gives the example "Take Me to Heaven (Hell remix) (feat. Linda B.)"
      • All the examples there are separated, so I guess it's more clear-cut than I thought: Separate the feat. :)
      • Muz
        FauxFaux--.
      • I now have FLACs and OGGs and should update my CLI scripts. :(
      • Transcoding == effort.
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      • navap
        Bram van Kampen performs as Bram VanK, does that count as a ficticious name?
      • mikemorr
        For sortname purposes, I'd say yes. I'd sort "Bram VanK" under "B". (Not "VanK, Bram".)
      • navap
        But you would mark the artist as a Person though correct?
      • The performance name
      • mikemorr
        I've been meaning to ask the list about that, actually. There was talk about creating a third category "Project" for artists who are neither a person nor a group. This one definitely looks like a person to me.
      • I say, if it's one person, it's a person :)
      • navap
        Well, ya, in this case he refers to himself by that name on his bio http://www.bramvank.com/biography.html
      • mikemorr
        I mark all those DJ names as Persons, if they are a performance name for only one person.
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      • What I want to know, though, is: are these Persons: Eric Cartman? Kermit the Frog? Budgie and Basil of Caninus?
      • navap
        Kermit the Frog haha
      • RifRaf
        kermit is obviously a frog
      • navap
        I dunno, you could argue that it's a person ;)
      • Born: 1955-05-09, Type: Person haha there you go
      • mikemorr
        I'd say, keep it simple and mark all the ones I listed as Persons, rather than creating more categories. If it's one inseparable identity, call it a Person, regardless of whether it's a human or not. Anything else is a Group.
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      • navap
        I agree, maybe "Person" should be called "Individual" instead?
      • mikemorr
        That would work for me.
      • navap
        Give it a slightly less humanoid definition.
      • brianfreud
        hmm, ok, seems Deseret casing is still broken in javascript itself, no matter what you do :P
      • navap
        What might "(Client)" in an artist comment refer to?
      • ollie
        mornin ruaok !
      • brianfreud
        mikemorr: I've always thought we should split "Group" into "Group" and "Collaboration" - the latter being our workaround artists
      • navap
        drsaunde: "UK artist Kate Holmes (Client)" ring a bell?
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      • creature
        navap: There's a band called 'Client'.
      • ollie
        ollie is now known as aCiD2
      • creature
        She's Client A.
      • aCiD2 slaps irssi
      • navap
        Ah, so she is
      • brianfreud
        hey voiceinsideyou and nikki (and whoever else is interested), we finally figured out in ##javascript how to address a range of unicode plane 1-16 chars - \uD801\uDC00-\uDC4F
      • instead of \uD801\uDC00-\uD801\uDC4F ... seems obvious once we figured it out :P
      • RifRaf
        luks are you still about?
      • Munger
        navap, ping
      • navap
        pong
      • Munger
      • navap
        What about it?
      • That was the edit from last night, the one where you said we had to trust you. So I added a note with "proof".
      • Munger
        Do you have a link that lists Frank Frost with the BLU GNC 052 number? I just added BLU NC 052
      • OIC
      • I just got the email
      • navap
        You should have got it about 28 hours back..
      • Unless you mean you're going through them now.
      • Munger
        About 16 emails suddenly arrived a couple of hours ago. Just got home now though
      • navap
        A lot of thore are probably mine, sorry :p
      • I went through a lot of the add release edits of yours a couple of hours ago.
      • RifRaf
        yay i just verified my membership
      • navap
        lol with mb?
      • RifRaf
        member since 2004-06-18
      • yep
      • navap
        Is this a second verification? Or your first?
      • RifRaf
        first
      • navap wonders what the point of "verification" is then :p
      • i just tried what would have been first username and it told me to verify
      • in mb classic it just asked for a name and stuff
      • Munger
        navap. Alexis Korner, Live in Paris was first released in 1980. I just never realised it was a dupe. I'll cancel the edit
      • navap
        Are you sure it was released in 1980? The info I got said it was recorded in 1980, but released in 1988
      • RifRaf
        guess i should do some editing at some point, just been lost in this stupid plugin since i came back
      • Munger
        I bought it before he died.
      • navap
        I see, well I'll add it to the existing release then.
      • Munger
        I have jotted down a not to dig out the CD and get the info off the cover
      • navap
        So the 1980 was a CD release
      • ?
      • Munger
        ...unless I can find the artwork here
      • Vinyl
      • Did I have it as CD?
      • navap
        No, you hadn't specified.
      • Munger
        I keep typing CD. I'm in that frame of mind :-)
      • navap
        btw, you don't need to leave a note when cancelling if its obvious why you cancelled it.
      • Munger
        I think there was also a CD release shortly after his death in 1984. I have no info on that though, but ISTR remember a friend showing it off to me
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      • Alexis Korner was one of my musical heroes
      • navap
        For example I stated it was a duplicate already, so you don't need to re state it. http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10161162 (Less email for the other people involved :p)
      • Munger
        OK. I like to spread the love ;-)
      • http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10163364 Again, I missed the duplicate (I am getting better and finding them), but this has always been the 'Blues Unlimited' album
      • 'The Best of Alexis Korner and Friends' is really a subtitle
      • nikkeee
        brianfreud: javascript doesn't support the real unicode codepoints beyond the bmp?
      • CatCat
        whenever is ee "bmp" i think "bitemsrk file"
      • like for paint
      • nikkeee
        bitmap
      • brianfreud
        nikki: not using standard \uXXXX notation - you have to use the surrogate codepoints
      • CatCat
        uh
      • nikkeee
        yucky
      • brianfreud
        but noone had a clue how to do ranges using them, took us a while to figure out
      • navap
        If you don't search for the release name manually but browse the artists page, watch out, you will only see anything marked as an Album, Single, EP, or Compiation.
      • CatCat
        natta!!
      • brianfreud
        nattamo
      • nikkeee
        I don't see what was so hard about it, it's obvious two bytes...
      • and ranges work on the last one
      • navap
        Munger: Check out http://musicbrainz.org/artist/d6a56832-d11a-4fe... and click "all releases".
      • brianfreud
        yes, as I say, it's obvious... once you've seen how to do it right :P
      • Munger
        That's a bogus artist. No such band
      • nikkeee
        if you'd asked me I could have told you :P
      • brianfreud
        \uD801\uDC00-\uD801\uDC4F just seems like it *should* be right, not \uD801\uDC00-\uDC4F
      • nikkeee
        maybe to you :P
      • to me it reads as the codepoints d801, dc4f and the impossible range dc00 to d801
      • navap
        Ya...I was goint to say \uDC00-\uD801 doesn't make sense to me
      • But I didn't want to say anything incase I was stuipidly wrong :p
      • See..like that stupidly*
      • Munger
        navap, As far as I know, there were only two albums with 'Alexis Korner and Friends' on the cover. It was because the albums were assembled from various performances and studio sessions with different bands
      • navap
        Would those two happen to be "The Party Album" and the "Blues Unlimited" one?
      • Munger
        Yes. They should be filed under 'Alexis Korner' with ARs listing the performers on each track
      • Check out the track listings here ---- http://alexis-korner.net/party.html
      • Well, the credits below the listing
      • That was just a gig with various guest performers
      • navap
        Well, I would get someone else's opinion before moving those albums over to Alexis Korner.
      • Munger
        I see what you mean, but all I am saying is that was no such band under that name. If you check out the perfomers on The Party Album, you will see a bunch of different names
      • err... I mean the Blues Unlimited album
      • Can't remeber them all, but I know that Robert Plant & Sonny Boy Williamson did a song on there
      • navap
        The album pretty clearly states the artist as "Alexis Komer and Friends".
      • Munger
        That's the subtitle. For most of the tracks the band was 'Blues Incorporated'
      • navap
      • warp
        Munger: if the cover and spine have 'Alexis Korner and Friends', that what it is credited to. I would prefer it if it stays there.
      • navap
        For the Blues Unlimeted one, there are lots of ways the album name could be written.
      • Munger
        As far as I have always known, it was 'Blues Unlimited : The Best of Alexis Korner and Friends'
      • navap
        That seems backwards from the order they are printed on the cover.
      • Munger
        No it isn't. REad it again
      • warp
        Munger: ok :)