I heard this english cook in a progrma say 'gravlaks' just the other day
it was so cute
wolfsong
the UK was ruled by foreign monarchs several times
nikki_
I know ombudsman as that concept in business studies which I don't remember the definition of
chocomo_
it's liek 'you don't say 'gravsalmon' but 'gravlaks'
wolfsong
and some borrowing due to trade i'm sure
nikki_
wolfsong: that doesn't explain us stealing tsunami and karaoke from japan when we had no decent word of our own ;)
mustaqil
business studies... I remember that... until I was kicked off the course :\
nikki_
mustaqil: I hated it :/
wolfsong
y have a new word though?
mustaqil
So did I, but it doesn't mean I'm happy about being booted off the course
nikki_
wolfsong: because we're lazy, we don't like using 10 words to explain something in just one
wolfsong
it's when we change the spelling of a foreign word or worse it's meaning that it becomes a headache
chocomo_
gravlaks is.. uh this way of prepairing raw salomon.. I dunno its abotu smoking and pickling and marination
nikki_
we don't change the spelling that much
which is why we have so many annoying words
wolfsong
yes we do actually
nikki_
example?
wolfsong
a LOT of english is derived from latin words
mustaqil
French too
nikki_
why don't we call karaoke kariohki?
wolfsong
that's why it's easy to recognize so much French
nikki_: that's where the problems start
chocomo_
how do you spell solicitor with the 'l' word?
nikki_
derived from isn't the same as borrowing
lawyer?
chocomo_
takk
wolfsong
what mo?
chocomo_
what what?
I asked, shre told me i said thansk
but in norwegian I said thanks
wolfsong
no i didn't understand your "L" word question
nevermind
chocomo_
but nikki did
nikki_
derived forms are bound to change, borrowed words tend to either be accepted as they are (english took cliche even though we'd probably write cleesh if it were an english word, japanese always adapts words, e.g. terebishon)
chocomo_
:)
nikki_
er
cleeshey
wolfsong
terebishon?
nikki_
tv
television
chocomo_
we did the things where we turnp ph to f and c to k and x ro ks
and w to v (and not u)
wolfsong
that's what they say n japan?
nikki_
they actually call it terebi for short
but yes
chocomo_
in norwegian double u is called 'dobelt ve'
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wolfsong
interesent
chocomo_
interesangt
interesting
a simple english borrowing
or was it latin or germwan?
;)
wolfsong
latin
nikki_
languages which are pronounced very regularly tend to adapt new words to fit the language, when you don't, you end up with all the exceptions english has
chocomo_
and of course we have words from old norse that kept even as we had to adopt danish as the common language
old norse of course being originaly based on altin as well
latin*
nikki_
words for 'chocolate' in other languages are interesting because they're nearly all the same, but adapted to fit the language
chocomo_
sjokolade
chocklad
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wolfsong
nikki_: can you look over the changes to the Code of Conduct I made after DonRedman entered your suggestiosn
*suggestions?
Shepard
hi wolfsong
chocomo_
dude Shepard he's been here a while
wolfsong has a kitty on his lap making it hard 2 type
Shepard
i know but i was not looking then
wolfsong
hi Shepard
chocomo_
awww
^^
nikki_
chokoreito, qiao ke li, cioccolato, siocled, shokolad, schokolade, xocolata, chokolres...
yeah sure
wolfsong
u chocoholics make me nervous
hehehe
nikki_
:D
chocomo_
and cat!
luks
čokoláda!
chocomo_
katt, cat gatti
wolfsong
gato
chat
nikki_
chocomo_: but cat doesn't have a single root in a non-european language
chocomo_
chat
what do you mean?
neko?
wolfsong only knows english and a bit of spanish and french
wolfsong
chat is french
chocomo_
nekobuss
how do you say bus in japanese
catbus
wolfsong
LOL
chocomo_
nekobusaito
mustaqil remembers Totoro
kattebuss
Shepard
whoops
luks
nikki_
chocomo_: all the words for chocolate that I know come from the nahuatl word (xocoatl I think)
wolfsong
now how did we get from cats to buses?
Shepard
sorry i edited the page
nikki_
basu
Shepard
did not see the notice
chocomo_
ooh interesting
wolfsong
what page Shepard ?
chocomo_
nekobasu, catbus, kattebuss
Shepard
CodeOfConduct
HairMetalAddict , having seen thousands of dogs earlier, feeds his own Inner Poodle to: Sebastian Bach ~ Tom Sawyer [from "Subdivisions: A Tribute to Rush" (2005)]
chocomo_
heh
mustaqil
Rush! :D
nikki_
chocomo_: but the spelling was changed to fit the language, so they're effectively all the same word spelt according to the spelling of the language it's being used in, hence very interesting
chocomo_ sort of eyes the CodeofConduct being abriviated to COC
chocomo_
nikki: I get it, very interesting
nikki_
:)
luks
wolfsong: can you please change [[IRC]] to ["IRC"] ?