#musicbrainz

Dell is the company, not the processor..

The processor is either AMD, or Intel, and you'll find most people here suggest AMD, though I'm not one of them.

Intel

So, it's just the box that you're having difficulties with?

yeah, Dell only sell Intel

yes

Nyght: 'tis just that each of the edit types already has a (planned at least) page for the edit, it would possibly be easier to go "Edits that require voting" rather than "Type of Votes"...

Well, my true suggestion, unless the cd isn't the only difficult problem would be to look into replacing the CD (not very difficult at all) and reinstall as I had said.

I suppose in this age of planned obsolescence, the fact that it is 3 1/2 years old makes it ancient

But, if it's too slow for you, if you're no longer happy with the hard drive side, the speed etc.. then ah.. then I'll do some research and see what's rating the least troublesome. :D

beth - I think I will probably go with your suggestion and let my man who repairs clean it up and replace the CD writer

Okay.. I see where you're coming from.

Martin^^

sorry. ;)

...get a DVD drive... I couldn't buy a plain CD-writer, let alone a plain CD-ROM the last time I went to look...

I think that's your best.. because, cd writers are in the fifty dollar range. (that's from just quick guess) and the reinstall wouldn't be that bad.

Often times you can (especially with pent 4) do a lot to refresh and have a good system still.

A bit more memory might do you very nicely too.

What do you currently have?

martin - you are quite right - I do want a DVD drive

...if in doubt, add more ram! =)

LOL Martin, you and I agree on that one!

Joan, I just constantly hear upgrade upgrade upgrade, and usually people are very good with what they have, and satisfied, but it's like brainwashing. ;) That's why I pose the questions I posed.

if you're looking for a cd-rom specifically for ripping, you should get a plextor

if you're willing to pay

how much

considerably more than other brands

plextor... I heard that, got one, am not terribly impressed.. but, I am really hard on my burners too

currently 37.2Gb

i just use mine for ripping

i have a cheapo lite-on dvd-rw for burning stuff

I believe the dvd burner reader is about 70 - 80 pounds, whereas I said dollars before for the cd writer

ram Joan. ;)

what i am kind of upset about is that my plextor drive does will not read into the pregaps

ojnkpjk: this was in hmm... 98 I think. the drive was one of the few recommended models I could actually find one of. =)

i thought i made sure the model was getting did

Nyght: the last dvd dual layer writer I bought a couple of months ago was £35

so i cannot rip track 0

it's a right click, and under the properties of "my computer" and it says computer speed, then ram

ah, was it plextor?

I very well could be off inhouseuk, it's been a year or more since I bought mine.

Nyght: nope, that was a lite-on

anyone know the brand and model of a drive that will read into pregaps properly?

i've tried about 7 different drives with no luck

I got a pioneer dual-layer drive... it was about $AU60 I think.

There, take all questions out ;)

ojnkpjg: sorry no

I am just so amazed at how much cheaper everything is from September 2002 when I bought this set up

ojnkpjk: pioneer DVR-110D (I think) I've got seems to read the pregap just fine...

have you been successful ripping a track 0

beth - any sighting of tele yet

my drive claims to be able to read into the pregaps, but it doesn't

EAC and cdparanoia both just bomb out

they write NULLs

Joan: not that I've bothered to check, but prices for a particular computer probably halve every 18 months.... the computer you really want always seems to stay the same price... it just gets faster. =)

faster is good

ah... that's why, didn't realize mine was dual layer http://www.plextor.com/english/products/716UF.htm (That's mine)

dual layer media is still so expensive

Nope Joan, not even a reply back from my email yesterday

the drives have been around for years now, and it's still too expensive to be worth buying

ojnkpjg: I've ripped the pre-gap off Kylie Minogue's Light Years CD... only one I've seen so far in my collection, mind you...

well, if it worked for one, should work for all

thanks for the info

<---- doesn't even know the pregap thing

inhouse got him a list of amg relationships that tele wanted to delete. We were going to do it together. I got the list from here, checked all the links, put the names of each album alongside the link to make sure it was the right one, and since telling him I had done this have heard nada

when was that?

:(

I don't want to start on it because I am not sure exactly what he wants to do.

inhouse sent the list through early hours of yesterday morning and I spent the morning checking albums, etc.

Yeah, I'm sure of that, he does disappear for a day or two on occasion from what I saw when ... eh, perhaps about a month ago?

ojnkpjk: I bought three dual-layer blanks to try out the burner... I still haven't found anything that would serve as an excuse to use something that expensive for, though... =)

oh well - he will surface when he is good and ready and I did send him an email saying that I had the list.

ojnkpjk: perhaps when the prices are low demand will pick up so the prices go down so demand goes up ... =)

Martin, for me it's all space consideration. When you move too often the least amount of discs you have to transport and double back (work) the better!

I think that if I really wanted to shift a lot of information around, I'd lug a drive around... =)

inhouse has just reminded me that I had better go out and get some food in if we are going to eat tonight. See you later

by the time dual layer gets cheap, blueray will be common

bye Joan, have fun.

I hate shopping

take care Joan, good to talk for a while

ojnkpjg: hmm... one wonders which blank media will have the lowst $/GB though...

i was looking at backup options a while ago

hard disks are still by far the cheapest way to go

tape drives are ridiculously expensive

dvd is too much of a pain in the ass when you're dealing with >1TB

tape is slow, but it can't be "bumped" and lose data like a hard drive

slow and expensive

i could deal with it being slow

but i cannot afford it

yeah.. so far I tend to you memory drives (for vital record information) and then removable hard drive for non vital stuff.

Martin, I'm talking a drive in a box without any shock supports.

basically for all purposes, it's a raw hard drive, just with a case closing it so it doesn't shock, or ...

just a second.

ah better.. ;) anyways.. yeah, more a case of it could be a bare hard drive more or less

Nyght: use a laptop drive, and don't drop it further than off a desk onto a concrete floor, and afaik, you'll be perfectly fine...

Laptop hard drives are.. geh!

they're harder to break than desktop once by dropping them, afaik.

but, yes, it's more durable (the 10 gig I have) than my 300 desktop hard drive in the same style structure

They're just expensive!

there is that. =)

I remember reading somewhere that one person thinks that laptop drives will be the way of the future the same way that, well... have you seen a 5 1/2" hard-drive recently?

Shepard` is now known as Shepard

you can spin a 2.5" platter faster than you can spin a 3.5" platter... the arms are shorter, and don't need to be as heavy as 3.5" arms... mechanically, everything on a 2.5" drive is capable of being pushed faster than on a 3.5" drive...

we use laptop-sized drives in servers

blades

sata helps

i can rip out my laptop drives and put them straight in my desktop machine already

...'course the downside is that they have higher heat output, and they're physically smaller so you can't get the same amount of storage per drive (yet...) oh, and they're more expensive...

...most of the time, most peoples drives probably only need to supply 128-320Kbps, methinks... =)

Yes, it is.. and no, I hav.... wait, I have seen a few, and some dual height, servers still use them for one. (5.25 harddrives that is)

the last time I saw a (new) 5.25" drive was a slow, large (for the time) capacity drive from maxtor, I think...

There already is variable speed hard drives. I think

Now, I didn't "look" at them, I noted them. ;)

Okay, reboot time.. I just love firmware upgrades. ;) be back later tonight I imagine.. have some stuff to do unfortunately.

I've disassembled a full-height 5.25" drive... 'twas quite interesting.

Thanks Martin, for your suggestions!

Yes, they are. :D

MartinRudat: i just meant, they can manufacture one form factor _and_ one connector, instead of a hundred and twenty eleven combinations

"it crashed, but I took it apart, and it doesn't look very damaged"

egads.