well i'd rather add to the load than to duplicate "real" data everywhere
2006-08-20 23252, 2006
deadchip
as in i'd rather compute inherited values than to actually store them as basically duplicates
2006-08-20 23209, 2006
PRAEst76
People can donate to pay for more mice to run the little wheels inside the servers.
2006-08-20 23214, 2006
deadchip
the advantage is obvious anyway
2006-08-20 23220, 2006
deadchip
it's like with SQL views
2006-08-20 23234, 2006
deadchip
if you change the parent value then all child values that are inherited change automatically with it
2006-08-20 23248, 2006
srotta
Of course. Although there's some point in also adding redundancy - real-life database are rarely in some normalized form that doesn't include any redundancy.
2006-08-20 23253, 2006
deadchip
the only troublesome situation would be where you need to 'break up' the inheritance
2006-08-20 23259, 2006
srotta
In this case there's no need for that, though.
2006-08-20 23215, 2006
deadchip
then you would need to apply the inherited value as a real value for each child item
2006-08-20 23223, 2006
deadchip
and eventually remove it from one or more of them
2006-08-20 23233, 2006
deadchip
that's a somewhat complex procedure in relative terms
2006-08-20 23242, 2006
srotta
Because the choices are basically "add an album relationship" or "no relationships at all" - most of the people won't add AR's for every damn track in totally cover albums.
2006-08-20 23246, 2006
srotta
There are of course other AR's that could (and should?) be inherited.
2006-08-20 23202, 2006
deadchip
hmmmm
2006-08-20 23205, 2006
deadchip
well
2006-08-20 23220, 2006
deadchip
this also brings to mind how much the clients should do or not
2006-08-20 23221, 2006
srotta
For example, if we one day get to the point that there's actually some information about the roles of the musicians in the band, it would make no sense to add that information to every track.
2006-08-20 23234, 2006
deadchip
srotta: you can basically emulate inheritance to some degree completely client-side
2006-08-20 23245, 2006
deadchip
take as an example the webservices results
2006-08-20 23203, 2006
srotta
Of course, and it should be done there, if there are clear rules on how to apply it.
Wanna adjust one of the corner stands or slip a book or something under it.
2006-08-20 23204, 2006
PRAEst76
worked for my washing machine.
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dholmes
...
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slaad
Hehe.
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dholmes
Goodnight
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srotta
Hmh. I got a USB cup warmer when I bought an external hard drive.
2006-08-20 23228, 2006
srotta
:P
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deadchip
dholmes: btw about this display identical albums separately
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deadchip
i'd have thought iTunes is more intelligent
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deadchip
but it seems bmpx beats it in that heh
2006-08-20 23213, 2006
deadchip
i didn't know they index only by name
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Melbastard
Hello
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Melbastard
So I just did a very stupid thing
2006-08-20 23207, 2006
Melbastard
I was highlighting my music files to transfer them to my mp3 player
2006-08-20 23223, 2006
slaad
And *whammo* you deleted them?
2006-08-20 23239, 2006
Melbastard
after I had highlighted all the ones I wanted, I see this song called "led zepplin - no quarter"
2006-08-20 23246, 2006
Melbastard
and I think "I gotta fix that"
2006-08-20 23205, 2006
Melbastard
so now all my files are called led zeppelin - no quarter
2006-08-20 23210, 2006
Melbastard
including album folders
2006-08-20 23212, 2006
Shepard
ugh
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Melbastard
:(
2006-08-20 23242, 2006
Shepard
now you can only sort them out by acoustic fingerprints
2006-08-20 23207, 2006
Melbastard
is there anything I can do? cause now I'm looking at 900 files and folders with the exact same name
2006-08-20 23227, 2006
Melbastard
maybe system restore. Even though I doubt that has anything to do with this
2006-08-20 23243, 2006
Melbastard
question mark after "maybe system restore"
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srotta has quit
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Shepard
try analysing them with Picard and see if it has a fingerprint for them. if not, you can try the old tagger which uses a different fingerprinting system (we have still more of those IDs)
2006-08-20 23238, 2006
Melbastard
I could always run the tagger on the mall, but that would take ages and ages
2006-08-20 23204, 2006
Melbastard
ok, I'll try that
2006-08-20 23215, 2006
Shepard
what OS?
2006-08-20 23220, 2006
Melbastard
XP
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Melbastard
fucking hell
2006-08-20 23238, 2006
Shepard
ah, don't think there's a way to undo any file renames
2006-08-20 23254, 2006
Melbastard
the moment my comp suddenly froze for a period of time I was like "no way XP is THAT shit"
2006-08-20 23200, 2006
Melbastard
yay
2006-08-20 23206, 2006
Melbastard
well msot of them are tagged from before, so running them in winamp would get real file names
2006-08-20 23209, 2006
Melbastard
for most of them
2006-08-20 23205, 2006
Shepard
they still have the correct ID3 data?
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Melbastard
probably
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Melbastard
but not nearly all of them
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Shepard
well then restoring them names shouldn't be a big problem with the tagger, just a lot of work
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Melbastard
precisely :(
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Shepard
could be worse ;)
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Melbastard
not really
2006-08-20 23256, 2006
Melbastard
I wonder if anyone has ever done this in such a large scale before
2006-08-20 23258, 2006
Shepard
hey, my music folder contains nearly 11000 files, *that* would be a problem :D
