#musicbrainz

The room seems so... empty and cold without him

http://www.last.fm/user/Nasasie/ <-- Hmmm... Last seen 12 days ago

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/52907 haha

"And by God, we mean Yngwie Malmsteen, of course." cough

hello I have a couple of questions about picard. I tag with picard in linux and then add the mp3s to itunes in mac os x 10.3. I had to set the id3v2 to 2.3 to see the tags properly in itunes 7.0 but I am not getting the cover art that I see in picard. does picard embed the art into the tag?

no, picard does not embed any cover art

is the art in picard just informational or can it be dled from picard?

the covers are hosted by amazon. you can download the artwork from amazon (at your own risk concerning copyright issues)

thanks for the help. I been banging my head on this art thing. itunes can get some of the art, but it is pretty slow. At least, now I know to stop tryign to mess with it in picard.

some of the cover art at amazon is pretty low quality, I usually get artwork from discogs or band websites

I'd like MB to offer additional coverart locations

not free form input

VxJasonxV: what do you mean? like cdbaby?

last.fm uses cdbaby covers

hooray for the blogosphere

hehe

I pasted that to another channel on another network a few hours ago

quite scary though XD

Aliens!

flash mob the location, everyone has to show up dressed as a knight

with a sword

ATLiens

Yeah, either giant alien bugs roaming the country side or tiny alien bugs attacking our satelites. Either way we're Doomed!

those are aerial photos

I thought the same thing :P

moin!

hello ruaok

hi

more work than its worth it.

I believe luks is working on a QT port of picard.

and that would make it easier?

once that is up and running, then I think we can nail OS X.

yes!

ok

QT on OS X is stable and works.

unlike WX.

ah, ok

well, I might be interested in spending some time on it if some help is needed in that direction.

ping luks on that... He may appreciate some help.

shit, I wish I could find the time to hack on that.

although, I'm new to mac and will have to .. learn a few things :)

ruaok: ok, i will.

it's been too lang since I did some coding,.. but with a job I just don't have the time to code new stuff from scratch. so I figured maybe I should try porting stuff ;)

woo

i'll mention this again real quick since more people are awake.

I have flac images of CDs, that I use to export to mp3,aac, whatever.

i'm using musicbrainz to fetch metadata at export time

i have two releases that would end up in the same directory structure, based on that data

band/albumtitle are exactly the same.

i'm looking for ideas on what to use to differentiate between the two.

smgoller: so what's the difference between the two releases?

discid.

with all that's implied by that: number of tracks and such

but everything else is the same

release date/country, etc.

hm.. rephrase, how do you differentiate between the two? :)

they're two UK cd singles for the same song

so in most cases there's something in the album title that would differentiate them

but that's not the case here

so, different catalog #?

yes

There you go.

smgoller: well, I assume this is rare enough that you can make the distinction yourself manually.. and don't _need_ an automated solution.

i don't think it's that rade

er, rare

luks!

i have 3 or 4 versions of some cds

ojnkpjg: rare _enough_

original, remaster, msfl version, etc

er, mfsl

ehm, warp? :)

luks: ruaok here tells me you are working on a QT port of picard.

yeah, what I ended up doing as a bandaid is adding a vorbis comment to the flac image that my exporter looks for that has an alternative album title

are the two releases

warp: it's probably a little bit more than "port", but yes

smgoller: I always go in afterward and rename the release directory to "catno ~ artist - album (year)"

so your directory structure is only 1 deep?

warp: so you manually put in the catalog number?

smgoller: no, usually something like: /mnt/music/tagged/<mood>/<artist>/<catno> ~ <artist> - <album> (<year>)/<trackno>. <tracktitle>.ogg

warp: mood?

mood is more or less like genre. but collected according to what music I may want to play when I'm in a certain mood.

cool.

so it has stuff like electronic, hiphop, game, jpop, kpop, but also a directory called 'genre6' because I couldn't find a decent name for it :)

i'm just trying automate this completely so i run a program over my collection, walk away and when I come back have fresh copies in whatever formats

luks: i was asking because i'm interested in an OS X port of picard, and wouldn't mind spending some time working on that in the near future.

so I guess single presetup for a given image is fine. and actually I could just embed the catalog number in a vorbis comment

smgoller: eventually i'll buy an extra harddisk and start ripping everything to flac.

yup

10 years from now i don't want to have to go through all my CDs and rerip them when some sexy new lossy format comes out

is there any reliable cli program for that? my sources claim exact audio copy (windows, gui) is more reliable than cdparanoia (which apparantly doesn't clear the drive cache when needed, and doesn't provide detailed logs).

for ripping? I haven't found a better cli program for it

I use EAC myself, but once i rip the image I do everything else under linux

ok, makes sense.

i'm using a wrapper for EAC called REACT

it'll do the extract to flac image, and embed the cuesheet inside

from that I can do anything

ended up writing code that would convert a cuesheet to a MB discid since libmusicbrainz only supports discid calculation from physical media

ah, cool

you should tar up your suite of tools for people to download somewhere :)

i'm not sure if that's a religious issue or not so I haven't really asked why only a device is supported as input

i'm going to

but right now a lot of it is super hardcoded

and i need to rewrite some of it

hehe

the discid stuff is written in C, and gets called by perl scripts

ok.. i'm going to muck about with the wipeout releases now. so last time I ask for opinions:

audio tracks on a playstation game cd-rom, are those an album? soundtrack? or other?

oh, so you're putting in the actual game itself, since those games are multisession?

nice

yes.

i forgot they were like that

hrm

and i'm a little obsessed with wipeout. I just ordered the sega saturn versions of the first two games, because a few tracks differ.

i wanna say album, personally, but I think that would confuse the issue greatly

heh

i'd say album too, someone else said soundtrack earlier.... but soundtrack is really confusing in those cases when an actual soundtrack has been released.

i couldn't rip my original music CD from wipeout, so I ended up searching all over and buying one from the UK

it even came with the ad for the game in it *_*

even though it was used