"And by God, we mean Yngwie Malmsteen, of course." cough
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chiodi
hello I have a couple of questions about picard. I tag with picard in linux and then add the mp3s to itunes in mac os x 10.3. I had to set the id3v2 to 2.3 to see the tags properly in itunes 7.0 but I am not getting the cover art that I see in picard. does picard embed the art into the tag?
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AMurderofCrows
no, picard does not embed any cover art
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chiodi
is the art in picard just informational or can it be dled from picard?
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AMurderofCrows
the covers are hosted by amazon. you can download the artwork from amazon (at your own risk concerning copyright issues)
2006-09-28 27124, 2006
chiodi
thanks for the help. I been banging my head on this art thing. itunes can get some of the art, but it is pretty slow. At least, now I know to stop tryign to mess with it in picard.
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AMurderofCrows
some of the cover art at amazon is pretty low quality, I usually get artwork from discogs or band websites
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VxJasonxV
I'd like MB to offer additional coverart locations
I pasted that to another channel on another network a few hours ago
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VxJasonxV
quite scary though XD
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Kerensky97
Aliens!
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BrianG
flash mob the location, everyone has to show up dressed as a knight
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BrianG
with a sword
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VxJasonxV
aliens?
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BrianG
ATLiens
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Kerensky97
Yeah, either giant alien bugs roaming the country side or tiny alien bugs attacking our satelites. Either way we're Doomed!
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VxJasonxV
those are aerial photos
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VxJasonxV
I thought the same thing :P
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ruaok
moin!
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warp
hello ruaok
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warp wonders how hard it would be to do a proper port of picard to os x.
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ruaok
hi
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ruaok
more work than its worth it.
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ruaok
I believe luks is working on a QT port of picard.
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warp
and that would make it easier?
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ruaok
once that is up and running, then I think we can nail OS X.
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ruaok
yes!
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warp
ok
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ruaok
QT on OS X is stable and works.
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ruaok
unlike WX.
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warp
ah, ok
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warp
well, I might be interested in spending some time on it if some help is needed in that direction.
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ruaok
ping luks on that... He may appreciate some help.
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ruaok
shit, I wish I could find the time to hack on that.
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warp
although, I'm new to mac and will have to .. learn a few things :)
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warp
ruaok: ok, i will.
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warp
it's been too lang since I did some coding,.. but with a job I just don't have the time to code new stuff from scratch. so I figured maybe I should try porting stuff ;)
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smgoller
woo
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smgoller
i'll mention this again real quick since more people are awake.
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smgoller
I have flac images of CDs, that I use to export to mp3,aac, whatever.
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smgoller
i'm using musicbrainz to fetch metadata at export time
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smgoller
i have two releases that would end up in the same directory structure, based on that data
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smgoller
band/albumtitle are exactly the same.
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smgoller
i'm looking for ideas on what to use to differentiate between the two.
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warp
smgoller: so what's the difference between the two releases?
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smgoller
discid.
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smgoller
with all that's implied by that: number of tracks and such
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smgoller
but everything else is the same
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smgoller
release date/country, etc.
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warp
hm.. rephrase, how do you differentiate between the two? :)
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smgoller
they're two UK cd singles for the same song
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smgoller
so in most cases there's something in the album title that would differentiate them
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smgoller
but that's not the case here
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warp
so, different catalog #?
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smgoller
yes
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Freso
There you go.
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warp wants catalog #'s in MB :)
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warp
smgoller: well, I assume this is rare enough that you can make the distinction yourself manually.. and don't _need_ an automated solution.
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ojnkpjg
i don't think it's that rade
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ojnkpjg
er, rare
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warp
luks!
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ojnkpjg
i have 3 or 4 versions of some cds
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warp
ojnkpjg: rare _enough_
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ojnkpjg
original, remaster, msfl version, etc
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ojnkpjg
er, mfsl
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luks
ehm, warp? :)
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warp
luks: ruaok here tells me you are working on a QT port of picard.
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smgoller
yeah, what I ended up doing as a bandaid is adding a vorbis comment to the flac image that my exporter looks for that has an alternative album title
smgoller: I always go in afterward and rename the release directory to "catno ~ artist - album (year)"
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smgoller
so your directory structure is only 1 deep?
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smgoller
warp: so you manually put in the catalog number?
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warp
smgoller: no, usually something like: /mnt/music/tagged/<mood>/<artist>/<catno> ~ <artist> - <album> (<year>)/<trackno>. <tracktitle>.ogg
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smgoller
warp: mood?
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warp
mood is more or less like genre. but collected according to what music I may want to play when I'm in a certain mood.
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smgoller
cool.
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warp
so it has stuff like electronic, hiphop, game, jpop, kpop, but also a directory called 'genre6' because I couldn't find a decent name for it :)
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smgoller
i'm just trying automate this completely so i run a program over my collection, walk away and when I come back have fresh copies in whatever formats
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warp
luks: i was asking because i'm interested in an OS X port of picard, and wouldn't mind spending some time working on that in the near future.
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smgoller
so I guess single presetup for a given image is fine. and actually I could just embed the catalog number in a vorbis comment
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Muz mooses in wet
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warp
smgoller: eventually i'll buy an extra harddisk and start ripping everything to flac.
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smgoller
yup
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smgoller
10 years from now i don't want to have to go through all my CDs and rerip them when some sexy new lossy format comes out
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warp
is there any reliable cli program for that? my sources claim exact audio copy (windows, gui) is more reliable than cdparanoia (which apparantly doesn't clear the drive cache when needed, and doesn't provide detailed logs).
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smgoller
for ripping? I haven't found a better cli program for it
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smgoller
I use EAC myself, but once i rip the image I do everything else under linux
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warp
ok, makes sense.
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smgoller
i'm using a wrapper for EAC called REACT
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smgoller
it'll do the extract to flac image, and embed the cuesheet inside
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smgoller
from that I can do anything
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smgoller
ended up writing code that would convert a cuesheet to a MB discid since libmusicbrainz only supports discid calculation from physical media
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warp
ah, cool
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warp
you should tar up your suite of tools for people to download somewhere :)
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smgoller
i'm not sure if that's a religious issue or not so I haven't really asked why only a device is supported as input
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smgoller
i'm going to
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smgoller
but right now a lot of it is super hardcoded
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smgoller
and i need to rewrite some of it
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warp
hehe
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smgoller
the discid stuff is written in C, and gets called by perl scripts
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warp
ok.. i'm going to muck about with the wipeout releases now. so last time I ask for opinions:
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warp
audio tracks on a playstation game cd-rom, are those an album? soundtrack? or other?
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smgoller
oh, so you're putting in the actual game itself, since those games are multisession?
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smgoller
nice
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warp
yes.
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smgoller
i forgot they were like that
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smgoller
hrm
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warp
and i'm a little obsessed with wipeout. I just ordered the sega saturn versions of the first two games, because a few tracks differ.
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smgoller
i wanna say album, personally, but I think that would confuse the issue greatly
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smgoller
heh
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warp
i'd say album too, someone else said soundtrack earlier.... but soundtrack is really confusing in those cases when an actual soundtrack has been released.
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smgoller
i couldn't rip my original music CD from wipeout, so I ended up searching all over and buying one from the UK
