luks, and chocomo: have you read ruaok's statement? think about making the most people happy, not satisfy needs for cruel conversions to unreadable scripts :-)
g0llum knows his statement about "unreadable" is uncorrect, but nevertheless
chocomo
well i'm not liek te SC5DR crowd.. I can *wait*
so ok
g0llum
i've been thinking about the discussion we had yesterday...
chocomo
I forgot
:)
g0llum
what if MB stored all artists in the english form (after all, MB is currrently english-international, the whole mb_server is not multilingual for example and requires english knowledge), and we facilitate tagging against the alias' in the other scripts, not the other way around. this would make much more sense given the current restrictions...
chocomo
hmm :/
but what is english?
luks
MB would lost a lot of moderators
chocomo
does that means that norwegian artists has to be stored with out æøå?
g0llum
why, you can tag against it, np..
chocomo
I couldn't agree to that
Sissel kirkeboe?
g0llum
if i convert an album to VA, i have to click on all the non-english scripts and see if i have selected the correct one (ok, once you did it a few time, you regonize the artist name)
chocomo
do you mena that g0llum?
g0llum
there are a lot of such unconvenient things in mb_server with the current policy
chocomo
that can be easily rectifyed by haveign the sortname in the search show
i'd agree with this if it had been the policy all along
g0llum
we can even create a similar option on mb_server where it would display the artist' in their native script (if we labelled one of the alias as such, or added a field to the artist which defines what his default script would be to display)
chocomo
but since we've been figting the uphill battle for as long as we have.. I can't
g0llum
it has been. it has been changed only recently (for cyrillic)
chocomo
we can make the dagger default to tagging with english
I have no problem with that
g0llum
i don't care that much for asian. their it makes more sense, and the usage is distinct (in most cases, kill bill soundtrack is an exception)
same thing for the website, then it's consistent.
luks
i still don't understand why kanji is ok and cyrillic is not
g0llum
you wouldnt notice a thing, it would display thingies like you selected them in the prefs
chocomo
but listen. if you mkae the default script whatever and make it liquid wich is sown. then that is what its talkign about
luks: especilly since I can "read" cyrilic better than kanji ^^
g0llum
luks: because. what have i written above? you don't have many international albums which feature asian artists
chocomo
yo-yo-ma
luks
g0llum: all anime soundtrack composers
g0llum
we could fine-tune which representation is chosen with the album language.
chocomo
all nintendo type soundtracks
but that is in schema 2
do yes
*so yes
g0llum
remember what i proposed a while ago: to use different artist entities for the different languages. i understand this is not what the 3rd party licencees wanted. but now we still display unreadable artist names on track listings for most of the editors.
chocomo
how about this
g0llum
even worse, if we start to display AR's on the track listings, where one asian artist features on a track. everything else is english, but the artist name.
chocomo
the artist name is the correct one for the artist comes from (eg cyrilic, kanji etc) but the site defaults to showign english/latin1 ??
g0llum
then we start using AR's for the (feat. ) clauses, and then you'll have other options again, and and and...
chocomo
read what I said
that's what I want
g0llum
yes. in the end, people want to chose which representation they'd like to show the website, as well as what is used in tagging.
chocomo
yes
g0llum
and everybody is happy
chocomo
yes
I son'tr understand what you're arguing?
:)
g0llum
what the default representation on the website is, and what most users expect it to be.
chocomo
read what I said will you
g0llum
chocomo: read yesterdays chatlog
chocomo
how about
the artist name is the correct one for the artist comes from (eg cyrilic, kanji etc) but the site defaults to showign english/latin1 ??
luks
i'll do anything to make it easier for people who can read kanji, cyrillic, greek, etc.
chocomo
don't tel lem that. i was here
luks
but i'll never agree that english version of the name should be primary
chocomo
not primary. just the site shoving it default to users?