15:05 PM
chocomo
they're i nthe same group?
2005-11-22 32627, 2005
15:05 PM
chocomo
I'l ladd ars too
2005-11-22 32638, 2005
15:05 PM
chocomo
durr!
2005-11-22 32658, 2005
15:05 PM
inhouseuk
koogah2005: it's a cut and paste of a page from the discogs web site for music artists
2005-11-22 32604, 2005
15:06 PM
koogah2005
btw i lave some strange issue in picard (win32).. it doesnt seem to be able to read any emtadata at all from my music files
2005-11-22 32610, 2005
15:06 PM
chocomo
notice all the numbers arent present? on franz it jumps from 41 to 43
2005-11-22 32641, 2005
15:06 PM
chocomo
brain 1-2 da brain, brain 6: franz
2005-11-22 32645, 2005
15:06 PM
chocomo
it all works out!
2005-11-22 32647, 2005
15:06 PM
chocomo
coolness
2005-11-22 32652, 2005
15:06 PM
chocomo
I'l ladd nicknames as well
2005-11-22 32608, 2005
15:07 PM
chocomo
1-5 da brain I meant
2005-11-22 32623, 2005
15:07 PM
chocomo
prolly check other members of 'brain'
2005-11-22 32635, 2005
15:07 PM
inhouseuk
koogah2005: what are the file types and where did they come from?
2005-11-22 32611, 2005
15:08 PM
inhouseuk
if you downloaded them illegially, I don't need to know
2005-11-22 32642, 2005
15:09 PM
inhouseuk
but if they came from a legal download site such as iTunes they might be protected or in a weird format that picard can't handle
2005-11-22 32610, 2005
15:10 PM
koogah2005
nope.. clean mp3 with idv2 *and* idv1 tags
2005-11-22 32633, 2005
15:10 PM
koogah2005
the mbtagger client seems to read them ok though
2005-11-22 32636, 2005
15:10 PM
luks
which version of id3v2?
2005-11-22 32639, 2005
15:10 PM
luks
2.3 or 2.4?
2005-11-22 32643, 2005
15:10 PM
koogah2005
hmm
2005-11-22 32645, 2005
15:10 PM
koogah2005
2 secs
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15:11 PM
koogah2005
dont know actually
2005-11-22 32603, 2005
15:13 PM
luks
ok, and what player/tagger did you used to tag those files?
2005-11-22 32655, 2005
15:13 PM
koogah2005
cant remember... i was just wondering if there maybe was an issue with network mounted files?
2005-11-22 32618, 2005
15:14 PM
koogah2005
it doesnt matter too much, as i am really looking for a good *nix client
2005-11-22 32642, 2005
15:14 PM
chocomo
inhouse . do you mind adding AR's to discogs links for to two asritsts?
2005-11-22 32642, 2005
15:14 PM
inhouseuk
koogah2005: that would probably cause it, due to locking methods
2005-11-22 32610, 2005
15:15 PM
inhouseuk
chocomo: np, I'll do them
2005-11-22 32614, 2005
15:15 PM
chocomo
thanks
2005-11-22 32623, 2005
15:15 PM
chocomo
also brain 23 is on neither of those
2005-11-22 32642, 2005
15:15 PM
inhouseuk
I've found more info
2005-11-22 32656, 2005
15:15 PM
inhouseuk
Brain / artists (B)
2005-11-22 32657, 2005
15:15 PM
inhouseuk
Real Name: Michael Baur, Franz Merwald, Eric Del Mar
2005-11-22 32659, 2005
15:15 PM
inhouseuk
Profile: This Artist consists of more than one Person, the following persons did the listed releases:
2005-11-22 32600, 2005
15:16 PM
inhouseuk
Michael Da Brain :
2005-11-22 32602, 2005
15:16 PM
inhouseuk
02, 03, 09, 11, 13, 14, 18, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 34, 35
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15:16 PM
inhouseuk
Frank D. Noise :
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15:16 PM
inhouseuk
06, 10, 12, 15, 16, 17, 19, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 38, 39, 41
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15:16 PM
inhouseuk
Ray Clarke : 04, 37, 40, 42
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15:16 PM
inhouseuk
Various: 21, 36
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15:16 PM
inhouseuk
Unassigned: 01, 05, 07, 08
2005-11-22 32612, 2005
15:16 PM
inhouseuk
Members: D-Noiser, Michael da Brain, Ray Clarke
2005-11-22 32635, 2005
15:16 PM
chocomo
just ad the varisu and unasigned to the 'band ' artist 'brain' then
2005-11-22 32644, 2005
15:16 PM
chocomo
with ars
2005-11-22 32645, 2005
15:16 PM
chocomo
:)
2005-11-22 32650, 2005
15:16 PM
chocomo
*and add arst to
2005-11-22 32621, 2005
15:17 PM
inhouseuk
koogah2005: the picard client will run on unix
2005-11-22 32631, 2005
15:17 PM
MBChatLogger
Ewww! Gross!
2005-11-22 32631, 2005
15:17 PM
koogah2005
btw is there anywhere i can find an output parser for gracenote cddb output? some cds are not in freedb
2005-11-22 32636, 2005
15:18 PM
inhouseuk
koogah2005: not that I'm aware of, they've gone closed source with cddb v2
2005-11-22 32625, 2005
15:19 PM
koogah2005
yes... but even though they are closed source, they still provide some html output that should be parseable
2005-11-22 32635, 2005
15:19 PM
chocomo
use the tradck parser
2005-11-22 32640, 2005
15:19 PM
koogah2005
... at least in principle.. :)
2005-11-22 32641, 2005
15:19 PM
inhouseuk wouldn't trust cddb anymore than freedb
2005-11-22 32645, 2005
15:19 PM
chocomo
lol
2005-11-22 32649, 2005
15:19 PM
chocomo agrees
2005-11-22 32658, 2005
15:19 PM
koogah2005
not a question of trust but of available info
2005-11-22 32620, 2005
15:20 PM
chocomo
trust that the available info is correct
2005-11-22 32605, 2005
15:22 PM
chocomo
2005-11-22 32606, 2005
15:23 PM
inhouseuk
anything that is in cddb but not freedb is likely to be a recent release... remember cddb stole^H^H^H^H^H borrowed there data from the original open project
2005-11-22 32608, 2005
15:23 PM
Shepard
2005-11-22 32646, 2005
15:23 PM
chocomo
no idea. but they're duplicate
2005-11-22 32657, 2005
15:23 PM
chocomo
.. I don't think so
2005-11-22 32620, 2005
15:24 PM
Shepard
yeah doesn't look like
2005-11-22 32622, 2005
15:25 PM
chocomo
hey inhouse. sould I add al the laiases on discogs to da brain and d-noiser?
2005-11-22 32649, 2005
15:25 PM
chocomo
hmm ome are already other artists
2005-11-22 32614, 2005
15:26 PM
Shepard
aliases on discogs are mostly performance names
2005-11-22 32623, 2005
15:26 PM
chocomo
yes I figured
2005-11-22 32631, 2005
15:26 PM
chocomo
I'll do that to yhe ones listed instead
2005-11-22 32637, 2005
15:26 PM
chocomo
but I wont bother with adding new ones
2005-11-22 32603, 2005
15:28 PM
inhouseuk
chocomo: I'd leave them for the moment
2005-11-22 32606, 2005
15:28 PM
chocomo
ok
2005-11-22 32608, 2005
15:28 PM
chocomo
^^
2005-11-22 32626, 2005
15:29 PM
ojnkpjg
what do you think about remasters getting their own MB album?
2005-11-22 32642, 2005
15:29 PM
ojnkpjg
i'm not clear on whether that's encouraged or not
2005-11-22 32649, 2005
15:29 PM
chocomo
9 out of 10 remasters have bonus tracks so..
2005-11-22 32658, 2005
15:29 PM
inhouseuk
ojnkpjg: depends whether it has the same track listing
2005-11-22 32601, 2005
15:30 PM
ojnkpjg
well, those are easy aases
2005-11-22 32603, 2005
15:30 PM
ojnkpjg
cases
2005-11-22 32609, 2005
15:30 PM
chocomo
if the tracklistign is identical. no
2005-11-22 32628, 2005
15:30 PM
inhouseuk
just add the new release date
2005-11-22 32639, 2005
15:30 PM
ojnkpjg
yes, i know, but problem is the tagger can't use it
2005-11-22 32654, 2005
15:30 PM
chocomo
pfft the tagger doesnt use the *old* one :p
2005-11-22 32604, 2005
15:31 PM
ojnkpjg
and i add catalog# and etc to album annotations
2005-11-22 32610, 2005
15:31 PM
ojnkpjg
and that gets cluttered
2005-11-22 32627, 2005
15:31 PM
Shepard
that's why we are trying to rework this ;)
2005-11-22 32633, 2005
15:31 PM
ojnkpjg
ok
2005-11-22 32640, 2005
15:31 PM
ojnkpjg
well, i will not add new entries for now
2005-11-22 32647, 2005
15:31 PM
ojnkpjg
the notes will make them easy to find
2005-11-22 32658, 2005
15:31 PM
inhouseuk
ojnkpjg: even if you add the re-release as a separate album, somebody will come along and merge them
2005-11-22 32611, 2005
15:32 PM
ojnkpjg
and i'll vote it down :)
2005-11-22 32629, 2005
15:32 PM
chocomo
and others will vote yes because they're identical
2005-11-22 32631, 2005
15:32 PM
chocomo
I would
2005-11-22 32633, 2005
15:32 PM
ojnkpjg
i mean remasters that are re-released
2005-11-22 32640, 2005
15:32 PM
ojnkpjg
the track list is identical, but the music isn't
2005-11-22 32651, 2005
15:32 PM
ojnkpjg
and not just because of different track divisions
2005-11-22 32657, 2005
15:32 PM
chocomo
tracktimes differ enough too?
2005-11-22 32604, 2005
15:33 PM
ojnkpjg
hm, not sure
2005-11-22 32647, 2005
15:33 PM
ojnkpjg
all the track lengths are different
2005-11-22 32649, 2005
15:33 PM
ojnkpjg
but the range is small
2005-11-22 32655, 2005
15:33 PM
chocomo
hmm
2005-11-22 32657, 2005
15:33 PM
inhouseuk
if the track timing difference is obvious, you'd be safe adding them as a new album
2005-11-22 32657, 2005
15:33 PM
ojnkpjg
most around 5 seconds
2005-11-22 32606, 2005
15:34 PM
chocomo
is it conistan o ncompiltiaons etc
2005-11-22 32607, 2005
15:34 PM
chocomo
?
2005-11-22 32615, 2005
15:34 PM
ojnkpjg
2005-11-22 32619, 2005
15:34 PM
ojnkpjg
that's the album that made me ask
2005-11-22 32624, 2005
15:34 PM
chocomo
if a comp has the new remastered version. is it also longer than a comp eth the 'old' song?
2005-11-22 32630, 2005
15:34 PM
ojnkpjg
it was originally issued on cd-r in very limited quantities
2005-11-22 32636, 2005
15:34 PM
ojnkpjg
it was remastered and re-released recently
2005-11-22 32642, 2005
15:34 PM
ojnkpjg
and the discid of the remaster has been added already
2005-11-22 32647, 2005
15:34 PM
chocomo
hmm
2005-11-22 32608, 2005
15:35 PM
ojnkpjg
i'm fine holding off on splitting things like this if there's discussion about a good way to handle it
2005-11-22 32611, 2005
15:35 PM
ojnkpjg
just figured i'd ask
2005-11-22 32600, 2005
15:37 PM
Shepard
ideally you could attach the disc id to a release set later and say in an annotation (of the release set for example) that this is a remaster. even better would be having entities for the audio data behind that can be linked with a "remater" AR
2005-11-22 32621, 2005
15:37 PM
inhouseuk
I need to get some shopping, biab
2005-11-22 32624, 2005
15:37 PM
chocomo
2005-11-22 32627, 2005
15:37 PM
chocomo
thanks everybody
2005-11-22 32637, 2005
15:37 PM
Shepard
but I'm currently trying to figure out how all these entities could be linked together and it's not easy..
2005-11-22 32643, 2005
15:37 PM
ojnkpjg
i imagine
2005-11-22 32653, 2005
15:37 PM
Shepard
cya inhouseuk
2005-11-22 32604, 2005
15:38 PM
ojnkpjg
i'd rather wait until there's a good implementation to handle it
2005-11-22 32616, 2005
15:38 PM
ojnkpjg
for now, it's no big deal that they're combined
2005-11-22 32628, 2005
15:38 PM
chocomo
^^
2005-11-22 32646, 2005
15:40 PM
orogor joined the channel
2005-11-22 32608, 2005
15:46 PM
donredman joined the channel
2005-11-22 32631, 2005
15:46 PM
donredman
hi
2005-11-22 32630, 2005
15:48 PM
chocomo
darg the two listings are contractorey, says that unasigned numbers are on one and its under da brain on the other
2005-11-22 32621, 2005
15:49 PM
chocomo
2005-11-22 32624, 2005
15:49 PM
chocomo
two more mods
2005-11-22 32606, 2005
15:50 PM
koogah2005
chocomo: where do i find the trac parser?
2005-11-22 32613, 2005
15:50 PM
chocomo
also when you return inhouse, can you search Ray Clarke?
2005-11-22 32629, 2005
15:53 PM
donredman
what does a valid US ZIP code look like?
2005-11-22 32656, 2005
15:53 PM
chocomo
dunno
2005-11-22 32603, 2005
15:54 PM
chocomo
but I always used 67676 on there
2005-11-22 32614, 2005
15:55 PM
koogah2005
nvm.. im adding album manually
2005-11-22 32657, 2005
15:56 PM
donredman
Shepard: you're around?
2005-11-22 32656, 2005
16:08 PM
inhouseuk is back
2005-11-22 32605, 2005
16:09 PM
inhouseuk
Ray Clarke / artists (R)
2005-11-22 32606, 2005
16:09 PM
inhouseuk
Profile: Produced these releases under the nickname "Brain":
2005-11-22 32608, 2005
16:09 PM
inhouseuk
Brain 4 - Dangerous To Remain
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16:09 PM
inhouseuk
Brain 37 - Shake With The Devil
2005-11-22 32611, 2005
16:09 PM
inhouseuk
Brain 40 - Acid Message
2005-11-22 32613, 2005
16:09 PM
inhouseuk
Brain 42 - Two Heart Can Beat As One
2005-11-22 32614, 2005
16:09 PM
inhouseuk
Aliases: Jack Handerson
2005-11-22 32616, 2005
16:09 PM
inhouseuk
In Groups: Brain, Code-16, Code-3, Code-32, Code-33, Detune (3), Matrix (12), Off Beats, Phil Kinley, Rejector, Ultimate (2), X-Ite
2005-11-22 32639, 2005
16:09 PM
chocomo
takk
2005-11-22 32609, 2005
16:10 PM
fuchs_ joined the channel
2005-11-22 32653, 2005
16:11 PM
chocomo
I think those code things are the same too
2005-11-22 32601, 2005
16:12 PM
chocomo
eg Code-1, Code-17, Code-20, Code-22, Code-24, Code-29, Code-31
