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      • chocomo is veeery envous

        • 2005-12-01 33531, 2005

      • chocomo
        envious

        • 2005-12-01 33537, 2005

      • chocomo
        or how you spell it damn

        • 2005-12-01 33550, 2005

      • chocomo
        inhouse: agreee

        • 2005-12-01 33501, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        MOM - upside WOW for people standing on their head

        • 2005-12-01 33511, 2005

      • chocomo
        mym mom

        • 2005-12-01 33524, 2005

      • SenRepus
        ok im going to go to the post office and the store

        • 2005-12-01 33537, 2005

      • Shepard
        WOM - world of music, a store here

        • 2005-12-01 33541, 2005

      • chocomo
        lol

        • 2005-12-01 33548, 2005

      • chocomo
        bai sen!

        • 2005-12-01 33551, 2005

      • chocomo
        I'm goign to bed

        • 2005-12-01 33553, 2005

      • chocomo
        night all

        • 2005-12-01 33554, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        this mod is correct: http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3811939

        • 2005-12-01 33556, 2005

      • Shepard
        natta

        • 2005-12-01 33504, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        night mo

        • 2005-12-01 33509, 2005

      • chocomo
        I finished all my emails today now I got 75 i nmy inbox instead of 114

        • 2005-12-01 33526, 2005

      • chocomo
        night all

        • 2005-12-01 33528, 2005

      • Shepard
        inhouseuk: also it should link to the target artist

        • 2005-12-01 33530, 2005

      • chocomo
        natta sen ^*^

        • 2005-12-01 33548, 2005

      • chocomo
        yes!

        • 2005-12-01 33559, 2005

      • nechto13
        night

        • 2005-12-01 33508, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        Shepard: yes it should do that as well

        • 2005-12-01 33517, 2005

      • nechto13
        is this a valid album title, style-wise? http://musicbrainz.org/album/24906dab-1f71-4c01-8…

        • 2005-12-01 33523, 2005

      • Shepard
        i guess there's already some bug reports about it or RFE's but i don't want to check..

        • 2005-12-01 33505, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        I'll look if there is a bug report later, if not I'll raise one

        • 2005-12-01 33507, 2005

      • Shepard
        style-wise? i see nothing wrong with it but on the other hand i also don't understand it

        • 2005-12-01 33515, 2005

      • Shepard
        thanks inhouseuk

        • 2005-12-01 33546, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        I don't think (translit) is needed in the title

        • 2005-12-01 33538, 2005

      • Shepard
        oh so it was just changed before i looked at it

        • 2005-12-01 33552, 2005

      • nechto13
        yep

        • 2005-12-01 33555, 2005

      • SenRepus
        brrr ok f that

        • 2005-12-01 33513, 2005

      • SenRepus
        WOW = world of worship

        • 2005-12-01 33516, 2005

      • SenRepus
        or warcraft

        • 2005-12-01 33548, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        it was that mo sneeking in mods again :)

        • 2005-12-01 33557, 2005

      • nechto13
        should I put her name in cyrillic?

        • 2005-12-01 33505, 2005

      • SenRepus
        night mo ^*^

        • 2005-12-01 33549, 2005

      • Shepard snickers.. http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3808195

        • 2005-12-01 33512, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        nechto13: yes please

        • 2005-12-01 33511, 2005

      • nechto13
        everyone who likes artist names in cyrillic vote yes on this http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3812078

        • 2005-12-01 33537, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        users should moderate when drunk! maybe we should get them to walk a white line as part of the login process. Have a moving white line graphic and ask them to follow it with the mouse !

        • 2005-12-01 33507, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        ah, she was already in the database as cyrillic !

        • 2005-12-01 33542, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        nope, nechto13 just added it, an edit artist would have only needed one mod

        • 2005-12-01 33510, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3812073

        • 2005-12-01 33501, 2005

      • SenRepus
        oh

        • 2005-12-01 33521, 2005

      • SenRepus
        nechto13, you dont need to add the artist first and then merge them to add the alias or edit their name

        • 2005-12-01 33539, 2005

      • nechto13
        got it

        • 2005-12-01 33541, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        also I'd already added the latin alias to prepare for the edit artist

        • 2005-12-01 33548, 2005

      • nechto13
        oh, first time i found her she had no aliases so i figured it would be 2 mods either way

        • 2005-12-01 33557, 2005

      • SenRepus
        and this method is arguably wrong, really, but im not going to vote against it for someone who is actually participating and learning rather than just coming by once to tag their songs and screw up the database

        • 2005-12-01 33508, 2005

      • Shepard
        alright I'm in bed. night

        • 2005-12-01 33523, 2005

      • nechto13
        night

        • 2005-12-01 33536, 2005

      • SenRepus
        Shepard wait

        • 2005-12-01 33537, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        night Shepard

        • 2005-12-01 33541, 2005

      • Shepard
        yes?

        • 2005-12-01 33556, 2005

      • SenRepus
        is "nacht" acceptable german slang like english "night"?

        • 2005-12-01 33503, 2005

      • Shepard
        yes

        • 2005-12-01 33506, 2005

      • SenRepus
        nacht

        • 2005-12-01 33511, 2005

      • Shepard
        :)

        • 2005-12-01 33517, 2005

      • Shepard
        schlaft gut!

        • 2005-12-01 33527, 2005

      • SenRepus
        im out of pie.

        • 2005-12-01 33550, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        you'll find two different types here: http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3782010

        • 2005-12-01 33503, 2005

      • inhouseuk snickers

        • 2005-12-01 33518, 2005

      • SenRepus punches inhouseuk

        • 2005-12-01 33529, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        ouch !

        • 2005-12-01 33518, 2005

      • SenRepus
        do not joke about something as sacred as pie

        • 2005-12-01 33535, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        I'm going crazy! I just made myself a coffee and left it in the kitchen

        • 2005-12-01 33511, 2005

      • nechto13
        even with everyone using picard the encoding has to be supported by the OS otherwise renaming in different encodings is useless for saving and renaming purposes

        • 2005-12-01 33536, 2005

      • nechto13
        I downloaded picard and I still had giberish in artist names in windows

        • 2005-12-01 33544, 2005

      • nechto13
        xp

        • 2005-12-01 33514, 2005

      • nechto13
        and I have russian installed and type in it all the time

        • 2005-12-01 33549, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        correct, also the hardware or software that is used to play the files needs to support id3v2.4 and utf

        • 2005-12-01 33553, 2005

      • Schika
        yeah UNICODE isn't supported well in windows

        • 2005-12-01 33536, 2005

      • nechto13
        and don't even get me started on mp3 players

        • 2005-12-01 33551, 2005

      • nechto13
        by the way ipod has no russian support

        • 2005-12-01 33503, 2005

      • SenRepus
        nechto13, what windows do you use

        • 2005-12-01 33557, 2005

      • nechto13
        windows xp professional

        • 2005-12-01 33503, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        nechto13: that doesn't surprise me, the squeezebox hardware player I use here makes a complete mess displaying cyrillic tags

        • 2005-12-01 33551, 2005

      • SenRepus
        night everyon

        • 2005-12-01 33559, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        night SenRepus

        • 2005-12-01 33520, 2005

      • nechto13
        good night SenRepus

        • 2005-12-01 33548, 2005

      • Schika
        gn8

        • 2005-12-01 33520, 2005

      • nechto13
        that's why I think maybe it would be better to transliterate artist names in all unsupported scripts and have aliases with right encoding

        • 2005-12-01 33507, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        with artist names at least you have the choice of using the sortname which should be in latin script

        • 2005-12-01 33553, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        with tracknames that option isn't currently available

        • 2005-12-01 33539, 2005

      • nechto13
        you still get gibberish in the artist name in id3 tag and there's not much that can be done about that

        • 2005-12-01 33511, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        you can set picard to use the sortname instead of the artistname

        • 2005-12-01 33513, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        ummm, maybe not in the tag though, it might be only for the directory/file names

        • 2005-12-01 33526, 2005

      • nechto13
        are you using picard?

        • 2005-12-01 33521, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        nope, I use a bunch of perl scripts over the top of the libmusicbrainz library on FreeBSD, at the time I started to use musicbrainz the tagger wasn't available for unix

        • 2005-12-01 33530, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        also, I tag the files as part of the ripping/encoding process straight from CD

        • 2005-12-01 33536, 2005

      • nechto13
        inhouseuk, ah so you don't have files without cds?

        • 2005-12-01 33554, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        not generally no

        • 2005-12-01 33520, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        I prefer to buy my music on phyical media

        • 2005-12-01 33515, 2005

      • nechto13
        that's nice, I have some files for which all I have is tape

        • 2005-12-01 33542, 2005

      • cparker joined the channel

        • 2005-12-01 33511, 2005

      • yllona
        okay, i just finished the ARs for the second act of this musical, starts at track 19 http://musicbrainz.org/album/95e7a941-e7d7-439a-8…

        • 2005-12-01 33533, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        my wife has a load of tapes of russian music, which at sometime I need to put onto different media or mp3. But I haven't got around to it yet. We'll probably buy some of it on CD when we next visit Ukraine

        • 2005-12-01 33537, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        yllona: you've been busy !

        • 2005-12-01 33505, 2005

      • yllona
        heh, now i'm starting on buckshot lefonque

        • 2005-12-01 33527, 2005

      • yllona
        get ready for a blizzard of mods

        • 2005-12-01 33548, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        yllona: try again on http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3812360

        • 2005-12-01 33550, 2005

      • yllona
        thx, i'll delete and add again

        • 2005-12-01 33508, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        just delete the 3812360 mod , you don't need to create another mod to delete the relationship

        • 2005-12-01 33547, 2005

      • yllona
        deleted, ithink

        • 2005-12-01 33535, 2005

      • yllona
        the thing is if you edit/delete a relationship it doesn't show. you have to go find the mod

        • 2005-12-01 33544, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        yllona: you need to delete these as well http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3812373 http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3812377 http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3812379 http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3812381

        • 2005-12-01 33546, 2005

      • yllona
        done, why so many mods?

        • 2005-12-01 33532, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        dunno, you must have clicked delete on the relationship multiple times

        • 2005-12-01 33500, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        you still missed deleting http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3812377

        • 2005-12-01 33521, 2005

      • yllona
        okay

        • 2005-12-01 33558, 2005

      • yllona
        why can't i just delete the relationship on th page where i entered it

        • 2005-12-01 33534, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        because the mod to add it will still be existance

        • 2005-12-01 33556, 2005

      • nechto13
        allright i know i'm gonna regret this, but I'm adding another soundtrack with virtually the same title to dunaevsky.

        • 2005-12-01 33558, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        it doesn't complete until the voting has finished

        • 2005-12-01 33556, 2005

      • yllona
        okay, but if you edit a relationship, due to a mistake that goes thru on vote also

        • 2005-12-01 33517, 2005

      • yllona
        which adds to the comments on mods.

        • 2005-12-01 33509, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        if you edit a relationship when it is still being added, you will have 2 open mods, the original one and also the edit

        • 2005-12-01 33527, 2005

      • yllona
        yes, i know

        • 2005-12-01 33533, 2005

      • yllona
        so if i go back and review a mass of edits after completing an album, and i correct any mistakes, i get double edits (and double comments)

        • 2005-12-01 33532, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        for automoderators the situation is even worse, we can add a relationship without it going to a vote, but removes always need voting on

        • 2005-12-01 33534, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        for you, it is easier to delete the original mod that is adding the relationship and resubmit it correctly

        • 2005-12-01 33550, 2005

      • Schika
        as automoderateor, can you choose if a mod should be auto (without voting) or not?

        • 2005-12-01 33557, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        Schika: yes, the automoderator can force a mod to go to a vote by temporarily disabling automoderation in the user preferences

        • 2005-12-01 33530, 2005

      • Schika
        that's nice

        • 2005-12-01 33523, 2005

      • yllona
        inhouseuk: the why is the incorrect AR still showing here: http://musicbrainz.org/artist/c1085917-1048-4f49-…

        • 2005-12-01 33526, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        yllona: because the add mod hasn't been deleted yet, it will disappear at the top of the hour

        • 2005-12-01 33514, 2005

      • yllona
        so edits/deletes take place on the hour?

        • 2005-12-01 33531, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        the actioning of them, yes

        • 2005-12-01 33555, 2005

      • yllona
        that's a useful tidbit

        • 2005-12-01 33513, 2005

      • Shepard` joined the channel

        • 2005-12-01 33528, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        yllona: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/HowVotingWorks describes the process

        • 2005-12-01 33540, 2005

      • yllona
        thank you

        • 2005-12-01 33530, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        okay, I'm going to meet my wife from work, back later

        • 2005-12-01 33500, 2005

      • Schika
        cya

        • 2005-12-01 33504, 2005

      • nechto13 has quit

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      • Shepard has quit

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      • Shepard`
        Shepard` is now known as Shepard

        • 2005-12-01 33505, 2005

      • nechto13 joined the channel

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      • nechto13 has quit

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      • nechto13 joined the channel

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      • nechto13
        yllona: if a composer of the soundtrack I've added decides to sing in a couple of tracks how do I indicate that?

        • 2005-12-01 33539, 2005

      • yllona
        heh, that's always fun. on the the track create an AR "performs vocal on"

        • 2005-12-01 33520, 2005

      • nechto13
        thanks

        • 2005-12-01 33519, 2005

      • nechto13
        what about tracks where I have some preformers talking before other performers start to sing, is there a way to add spoken word for an artist?

        • 2005-12-01 33548, 2005

      • yllona
        let me cheeck, i think there's a spoken word

        • 2005-12-01 33518, 2005

      • yllona
        no, sorry no spoken word or recitative

        • 2005-12-01 33527, 2005

      • duncf has quit

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      • nechto13
        that's good cause the relationships would drive me crazy

        • 2005-12-01 33535, 2005

      • srotta joined the channel

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      • nechto13
        is it not possible to edit a track on an album which addition hasn't been approved yet?