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rj_
                hi all
     
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rj_
                what should i be downloading if i want to fingerprint files and look up MBIDs if they exist, from linux CLI ?
     
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yalaforge
                at the moment there's only tunepimp's reference implementation
     
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rj_
                so i should checkout  tunepimp?
     
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yalaforge
                yup
     
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rj_
                ok, cheers
     
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yalaforge
                I'm currently playing with tunepimp, perhaps I'll write a curses frontend
     
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rj_
                i'm hooking it up to a PHP script for when people upload files via web interface
     
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rj_
                i'm just gonna parse the stdout of the CLI version
     
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rj_
                its either that or write a PHP extension
     
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yalaforge
                uh. good luck then. the interface is a bit, err, strange ;-)
     
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rj_
                heh, strange i can deal with. provided its always the same amount of strange
     
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yalaforge
                :-)
     
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yalaforge
                do you know C?
     
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rj_
                i know enough to be dangerous
     
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yalaforge
                mb_client is also a dependency
     
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rj_
                yeah i've satisfied that one
     
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                makes me wish i was running gentoo on my webserver tho ;)
     
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rj_ compiles tunepimp
     
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rj_
                uh-oh
     
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yalaforge
                trouble?
     
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rj_
                yep
     
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rj_
                failed on make
     
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rj_
                may i paste some output in here?
     
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yalaforge
                sure
     
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                make[2]: *** [tp_tagger] Error 1
     
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                make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/rj/MusicBrainz/tunepimp/examples'
     
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                make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
     
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                make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rj/MusicBrainz/tunepimp'
     
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                make: *** [all] Error 2
     
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yalaforge
                seems there's a -lstdc missing or something
     
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rj_
                care to elaborate? :)
     
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yalaforge
                try: LDFLAGS='-lstdc' ./configure && make
     
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yalaforge
                oops, -lstdc++, most probably
     
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rj_
                yup, the ++ did it
     
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yalaforge
                cool
     
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rj_
                thanks, its installed now
     
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rj_
                what does that flag mean then?
     
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yalaforge
                it links with the C++ standard library
     
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yalaforge
                that's needed for all the string operations, lists, maps and stuff
     
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rj_
                ah, hence the undefined refs to std::stuff
     
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                cool. thanks :)
     
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yalaforge
                np
     
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yalaforge
                hey! now that the work is almost done ;-)
     
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ruaok
                uh oh. :-)
     
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ruaok
                Guesse aus Hamburg.
     
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yalaforge
                Gr��e zur�ck!
     
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ruaok
                At last we're in the same timezone.
     
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ruaok
                And only one off from djce
     
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rj_
                heh, hi ruaok
     
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ruaok
                rj_: hi!
     
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yalaforge
                yup. But it's already too late for me. Got to get up early tomorrow
     
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ruaok
                rj_: 'twas good meeting you in oxford.
     
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ruaok
                yalaforge: ok, gute nacht!
     
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                night all!
     
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                likewise, yalaforge just gave me a hand with tunepimp - i'm starting the web based importer w/ MB support now
     
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ruaok
                excellent.
     
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rj_
                how was amsterdam?
     
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ruaok
                quite nice. until I got mad sick.
     
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rj_
                :/
     
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ruaok
                4 days down from the flu sucks.
     
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ruaok
                But I'm over it now.
     
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rj_
                yuk
     
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rj_
                back to work then ;)
     
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                I have 2 more days of .de/.nl before I head back.
     
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                cool
     
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ruaok
                but I have a decent net connection to play with.
     
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ruaok
                And I'm also hoping to meet with Johan in Den Haag on wednesday.
     
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rj_
                Johan?
     
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ruaok
                
     
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ruaok
                He helped me get MB off the ground.
     
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ruaok
                Even wrote some code back in the day, but his PHD and post PHD work has kept him busy.
     
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rj_
                ahha
     
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ruaok
                I'd like to run the Karma system by him since he has experience with that.
     
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rj_
                Dr. Johan then
     
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ruaok
                or something like that. :-)
     
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rj_
                hmm, the tp_tagger has an interactive menu thing..
     
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rj_
                i was hoping i can do it all thru just parameters so i can easily parse output in php
     
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ruaok
                well, the tp_tagger is nothing more than a test harness.
     
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ruaok
                I certainly hope you're not seriously thinking of using it for real work are you??
     
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rj_
                i want to write a php class that tries to get a MBID for a given mp3 file
     
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rj_
                what do you suggest?
     
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ruaok
                can you make C type calls to a library??
     
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ruaok
                do you need to work with more than one file at a time??
     
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rj_
                i'm not sure, that may involve writing a php extension. it only needs to do an albums worth of files at a time, so not a lot of thruput
     
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rj_
                basically, someone ftp's an album to a folder then goes to web interface and fixes tags if requred and hits import
     
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rj_
                i want to write the MBIDs to the database when its imported, and if it doesnt exist in MB, send in the fingerprint and metadata
     
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ruaok
                Hmmm.
     
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rj_
                just looking up MBID if iit exists is a good start
     
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ruaok
                Yeah, you will want to talk to the tagger natively.
     
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rj_
                okay, sounds like a php extension is needed
     
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ruaok
                either that or have last.fm hire me to write this code for you. :-)
     
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rj_
                heh, they cant afford to hire me, let alone anyone else
     
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rj_
                and i'm cheap :)
     
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ruaok
                LOL
     
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ruaok
                sounds like you want a PHP extension then. :-)
     
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rj_
                yeah..
     
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rj_
                fun.
     
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ruaok
                The docs that yalaforge has put together are pretty good.
     
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ruaok
                did he point you at them??
     
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rj_
                nope
     
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ruaok
                have you ever used doxygen??
     
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rj_
                yup
     
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rj_
                good stuff
     
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ruaok
                in the sources there is a tunepimp.doxy file.
     
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ruaok
                That should let you generate the docs from the source.
     
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ruaok
                Should all be up to date.
     
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rj_
                cunning, thanks
     
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ruaok
                np
     
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ruaok
                Ok, I've got to run.
     
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rj_
                seeya
     
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ruaok
                My mates want to go out for a beer.
     
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ruaok
                Good talking to you again.
     
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rj_
                yeah, and you. have a good time :)
     
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ruaok
                I'll post summit recaps and all that when I'm back on the wrong side of the planet.
     
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ruaok
                tahnks