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np

I've added somme comments on the wiki.

You missed the fact that only non-leading choices decay.

Ahh. ok.

If rare music is never looked at or edited, it just sticks around exactly as originally entered.

The only way it would disappear is if someone comes along and proposes something different.

ok

Perhaps I should have made that clearer.

I suppose there is a problem in that if people think they can sing, record a CD on a CD Recorder, then add themselves to the database, even though they never sell anything or do anything, they will stick around forever.

immortality!

I cannot think of a solution to that problem. We probably have it already.

Britney Spears?

or people could also use musicbrainz as a secret way of communicating

maybe they already do

like Artist: Algalgla Album: Plans to bomb embassy Track1: 12/24/03 Track2: Dynamite Track3: Commence on 8:40 AM

mb-day1-3-01 rules!

that should be added to the db ;-)

I love the 'tea break' sessions

every summit should have something cultural that identifies where it took place

oh, all the rererences to 'muppet' didn't give a clue?

At least that narrows it to .uk

haven't got to that yet

the adding of sugar and stirring was awesome though

:-)

I have a hilarious Chris Morris sketch which was almost identical

sounded really productive

the summit, not the tea

it was.

day two was most excellent.

But the mic wasn't up to the job... :-(

works for me

it's really clean

s/clean/clear

yeah, when 3 people were there. Not so hot for 7

oh well, sound crew next time then

do record companies really restrict the playing of music samples in US music stores?

All of the thousands of subpoenas filed by the Recording Industry Association of America in its legal pursuit of accused illegal Internet file traders have been invalidated by a court ruling against the industry association.

oops

soccos: there is a Borders here in town that has the music preview system now.

The court found that the subpoena provisions of the controversial DMCA did not apply to private communications on a subscriber's computer or the P2P applications and networks used for music file sharing.

my take on it.

UK (EU?) has RIP

which might mean ISPs have to give up that info

but probably only in extreme cases

canada has the RIAA's little brother, the RIA(?), but they cant do anything

practically unworkable anyway

ruaok: I'd been thinking along the "record store system" lines

mb would be useful for inventory

as well as pre-sales listening

the movie industry is getting mad too... I got traced on dc and got a warning from my isp

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morning!

Check this: http://test.musicbrainz.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi

nice!

fully integrated with MB logins.

it still has some rough edges.

oh. I didn't expect that.

:-)

there is a new login: yabbadmin passwd: yabb

Untrapped Error:

Can't locate ./Sources/Profile.pl in @INC

login to test with that and then you do the forum admin thing.

yup, I'm in the process of removing the link.

Logout and Members are going too.

so is this so people can create forums to discuss specific moderation issues or genres?

yes.

I'm trying to understand what gap it fills.

users can create forums?

Hmmm.

no. its just an online discussion board -- something more direct and immediate than email/mailing lists.

More visible too, I hope.

Our users will use it, or we dump it overboard. :-)

is the data archivable?

its all stored in text files.

i.e. in a readily-usable exportable format?

No, but a simple perl script will do that.

ok

The dataformats are bone easy.

Everything about this is bone easy.

http://test.musicbrainz.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.c... :-)

Which is the reason why I chose it.

I like the first entry :-)

ahahaha.

hmmm. all these artist and album links need reorganising.

how so?

when logged in, there are 8 artist links

and (counts....)

... 12 album links

on which page??

in five different rows of links.

oh, sorry: http://test.musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albu...

i.e. any old album page

there's no organisation to why the artist links are split over two rows, or why the album links are over three.

Ya. I was hoping to get some feedback on that from you.

well, there y'are :-)

I wrangled a bit with the layout...

"something needs changing" :-)

thanks! :-)

ok, I'll tinker some.

well, I need to. Will I? Different matter. :-)

I want to fix redirects in yabb and it should be mainly functional.

when live, can we put it on forums.musicbrainz.org (for example) please?

that's the plan...

good

Hmmm.

It does use the DBDefs stuff, but we should be able to load that module for the vhost, right?

yes, that should be fine

ok.

is it "traditional" perl, or mod_perl?

Next step is to think how to add links to the forum intelligently.

traditional, without much CGI use even.

But it most portions have been moved over to mod_perl now.

the question is, how much do you trust yabb? If you trust it absolutely, then it can be run in mod_perl with the main MB server.

negatory.

if you trust it barely at all, it would be wise to proxy it through to a separate apache under a different user id.

or, there's other solutions in between

let's quantify trust -- security or bugs. What worries you?

errr, that it might be insecure? remote command exection, that kind of thing.

security, ok.

I'll have to see.

And running it inside a vhost is not enough?

within the "front" apache - maybe, but I can't remember what user that runs as.

back end apache - no way.

ok. We'll find a way.

but now its my bedtime. For real. :-)

it might involve adding the suexec option to the front end apache.

ok. good night!

g'nite!

topicalla :) http://rdfig.xmlhack.com/2003/12/20/2003-12-20....

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