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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Question: would "temporary hold date" be an appropriate Event status in MB?

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      • hawke2
        hibiscuskazeneko: I think it would require some explanation.

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        In the book "KISS Alive Forever," temporary hold dates are described as gigs that were booked but never advertised and tickets never went on sale

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        so basically, concerts that never got out of the planning stages

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        they're not well-tracked, so it might not be worth it to have a designation for them

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        If an artist records one version of an album in one language and then issues a different version in a different language, do those different versions need separate release groups?

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      • reosarevok
        hibiscuskazeneko: http://beta.musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Release_Gro…

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      • reosarevok
        AKA ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        In the past I've been told to split them off (primarily in the case of vocal movie soundtracks)

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      • hawke
        hibiscuskazeneko: that's explicitly true for movie soundtracks (it wasn't always though)

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        The release I'm referring to is not a soundtrack, though

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        http://www.kiss-related-recordings.nl/brucekulick…

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      • hawke
        Personally I would count any re-recording as a distinct release group but that's just a general thought, specifics might vary.

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      • hawke
        I mean, to me the whole point of release groups is "would someone purchasing this album feel a need to own all of them" basically...dunno if that's true there.

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        maybe

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        it's the same album in 2 languages (albeit with a bonus track on the English version)

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      • hawke
        Nod

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        http://www.kiss-related-recordings.nl/brucekulick…

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        (the Spanish version)

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      • hawke
        So most people buying one would probably only care to own the one because they don't understand the other one.

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Or are morbidly curious and would buy both

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        (as I have been known to be)

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      • hawke
        Heh, that too.

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Do we have a "translated version of" AR for Releases or Release Groups?

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      • hawke
        I thought so, isn't it used for pseudo-releases?

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        It typically is

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        granted, that's "transliterated/translated track listing"

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        it doesn't mention anything about the actual audio content being translated

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      • Leftmost
        I figured that generally applied to works rather than releases.

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      • dr_saunde
        I say same release group

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      • dr_saunde
        That is done with Kraftwerk...almost all their albums are in multiple languages

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      • reosarevok
        That rel is specifically for cases where the contents are the same and just the tracklist is translated

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      • reosarevok
        So please don't use that one there :)

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      • dr_saunde
        that's not kraftwerk...lyrics of said releases were language specific also

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      • Freso
        JonnyJD: Yo. I'm getting errors building the isrcsubmit-git PKGBUILD.

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      • Freso
        I'll investigate more shortly.

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      • Freso
        In package().

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      • Freso
        https://gist.github.com/Freso/d8f7441be9ff43ea2af8

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      • Freso
        I get the same for isrcsubmit's PKGBUILD.

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      • JonnyJD
        Freso: oh boy, that seems to be a problem related to keyring. I remember adding patches upstream to make it build at all, not sure what changed (possibly one of the keyring related packages)

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      • JonnyJD
        Freso: can you open a ticket while you are at it? looks like I have other problems (probably related to the fact that I didn't update python-discid since python 3.5)

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      • Freso
        Sure.

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      • Freso
        Done.

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      • JonnyJD
        thx

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