#musicbrainz

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      • SothoTalKer
        ah well, i just use csvview :D
      • reosarevok
        loujine: ping
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      • Oh well
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      • SothoTalKer
        meh
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      • ohh, python has a nice json library =)
      • agentsim
        I think the json API is still in beta
      • loujine
        reosarevok: yes?
      • reosarevok
        loujine: I just had a question about the bnf ticket but I posted in the ticket and got a useful answer already :)
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      • loujine
        oh I see
      • the unique identifier should be the same (with/without 'cb' prefix)
      • wikipedia/data links to the catalog I believe
      • reosarevok
        Hmm. yvanz ^
      • So I guess if we want data. (which seems reasonable) we might need to massage the URL ourselves
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      • Oh, damn, it's not so easy
      • Not only there's an extra 4 at the end on catalogue, but just http://data.bnf.fr/13891295/ without the name doesn't seem to work
      • loujine
        data.bnf.fr is the one with the sparql interface
      • I don't remember how to convert the identifier, but I know I should
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      • (disclaimer: the website was mainly developped by the company I'm working for)
      • reosarevok
        haha
      • I see
      • loujine
        so I have semantic web experts in the next office (when I'm in Paris)
      • reosarevok
        Well I guess most of these entries will come from your script, really
      • So if you can make your script find the right URL, that should basically solve it :p
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      • loujine
        I think it also does but the code is commented
      • I think in the canonic url data.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb138912954 '12148' means Person
      • not sure though
      • reosarevok
        Oh, I see, so that's supposed to be the "permalien", didn't see that one
      • loujine
        yes, that's the one wikidata uses
      • BTW I could probably implement STYLE-622 myself with a little help, now that I have a docker running
      • reosarevok
        Well that makes them easy to convert from catalogue then :)
      • yvanz: added a subtask for that bit
      • Not sure how to get the permalink programatically from the standard data.bnf.fr URL though
      • yvanz
        ‘12148’ seems to be appropriate for groups as well: http://data.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb13938815x
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      • SothoTalKer
        agentsim: well, it is basically just an interface to convert json into python list format. which you then can modify with standard python.
      • the steps i have to take now, is to load the json, remove all the stuff from it i don't need, then flatten the data and export it as csv :)
      • agentsim
        I meant the musicbrainz json API is, as far as I know, beta quality, I've no idea what python lib you're using...
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      • SothoTalKer
        well, it works
      • and produces valid json ;)
      • reosarevok
        The JSON api is basically fine
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      • agentsim
        might want to consider removing the warnings from the documentation then :)
      • reosarevok
        Beta here means "we might break stuff at some point while we make improvements" but not "this is horrible and you should never use it" :p
      • (I think we last broke stuff in January 2016 or so? But not sure)
      • Like, make non-backwards-compatible changes, I mean, which we wouldn't do to the XML one
      • The data is the same, so that shouldn't be a problem, just that you might need to update your code if we make some breaking changes :)
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      • yvanz
      • reosarevok, loujine: Actually, ‘12148’ is for BnF :) ^
      • The first letters ’cb’ of the ID might be useful to validate depending on the linked entity type.
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      • SothoTalKer
        too bad the webservice does not allow the limit to be zero to just get the count of extries
      • *entries
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      • CallerNo6
        Hi colbydray. Are you looking for feedback? Or are you saying "haha, the world is incomprehensible"? If the latter, +1 :-)
      • SothoTalKer
        looks like this guy got to many hits on his head :)
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      • Gentlecat
        I suggested it in #meb, but will say it here too
      • he clearly doesn't care what MusicBrainz is and doesn't want to be taught about it
      • so it's better to just leave him alone
      • CallerNo6
        +1 : I' guessing that if you ignore him (her/them?), that will be the end of it.
      • SothoTalKer
        but that also means no more adding his 'music' to MB
      • CallerNo6
        does it?
      • Gentlecat
        not suggesting that he is right, but there's no need to waste energy on him
      • SothoTalKer: not really
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      • SothoTalKer
        ignoring means to not react to anything a person does.
      • yvanz
        That just means to stop contacting him about MB. What is very surprising me is that he already uses social networks a lot and still cannot cope with MB.
      • chirlu
        SothoTalKer: Noone said anything about ignoring.
      • CallerNo6 did
      • Ah. :/
      • SothoTalKer
        :D
      • chirlu
        But Gentlecat said “leave alone”, and that is very different.
      • chirlu agrees with leaving alone, not with ignoring.
      • CallerNo6
        If it wasn't clear from context that I meant "ignore what he's saying about legal action, and don't contact him again", well... there. That's what I meant.
      • In the "butterfly effect" sense, you can only ignore him by leaving the planet or something. :-P
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      • SothoTalKer
        it's already too late, he already contacted law authorities ;-)
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      • CallerNo6
        colbydray, I still don't understand though. Is this bugging you? Or are you just sharing it in the "some people are silly" sense?
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      • Freso
        agentsim SothoTalKer: JSON WS is in beta only because there are ~2 small open bugs that slightly alter the output, if you're aware of those bugs (they can be found in Jira), then the JSON should be safe to use.
      • reosarevok too, I guess: ^ :p (Is my understanding anyway. We decided to mark the JSON API stable at a meeting sometime last year, as soon as those bugs were taken care of.)
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      • SothoTalKer
        i cannot access the bugtracker :p
      • oh, i can. just not submit something :D
      • Freso
        SothoTalKer: Are you logged in?
      • SothoTalKer
        no
      • Freso
        There you go.
      • Lotheric
        "The first two-character element represents the country of the ISRC National Agency to which you apply. In the United
      • States until late 2015 this was “US” or “QM” but after this date, it became “QZ” for new registrant code allocations"
      • ^^ this is kinda funny ;)
      • I had a QM ISRC and was wondering wtf country is this :D
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      • reosarevok
        They need to put out less music already
      • :p
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      • SothoTalKer
        ok, next step is filtering the json =P
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        Is someone impersonating navap, or is navap's client/connection having a bad time?
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        he had the navap 'cloak'
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