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      • reosarevok
      • BrainzBot
        STYLE-1221: Allow BBC Events links for events
      • reosarevok
        Not sure what's the best way of doing it. It feels like having a general rel for "this is official info about this event" might be useful?
      • yvanzo
        Isn’t that official homepage?
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      • reosarevok
        Well, generally "official homepage" means "it's a website for this event", not "it's an entry on a website for this event"
      • CatQuest
        +1 to having a general "entry on websites for this event" type rel
      • wiith *possibly* custom ones for big "event" sites.. or are we going away with custom?
      • CatQuest still finds it annoying that we have custom discog rels but not rym ones
      • either all sites (with some size) should get teir designated rel or none
      • should
      • possibly a whitelist for eventsites? but i'd advise against that personally
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      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: I did not find more official webpage for this event.
      • reosarevok
        Sure, most won't have one, same as most release groups don't :)
      • yvanzo
        Isn’t BBC coorganizing Proms or smt?
      • reosarevok
        Sure. The point is not that this is not official. It's that it's not a website for the event
      • Is just one entry in a huge website
      • yvanzo
        Do they list events they are not part of?
      • I can see the potential interest of having Other DBs for events too but the given example doesn’t seem to fit in.
      • Most event DBs are ticketing websites, that might be why we don’t have Other DBs for events.
      • reosarevok
        No, they list their own events. Same as an artist's own page listing one of their events should be linked, but it's not an official website for the event
      • It's just a part of the official website for the artist :)
      • yvanzo
        Ok, it doesn’t make a difference to me whether it is an official page of the official website of the artist/label or if it is a separate website.
      • reosarevok
        Well, you can't call a random subpage of something a "website"
      • That's just a subpage, not a website
      • yvanzo
        The relationship is named “official homepage” ;)
      • reosarevok
        .... but that's not a homepage for the event!
      • It's not a homepage at all!
      • It's a random subpage in a huge-ass database!
      • It's like calling a MusicBrainz page for an artist "a homepage". It doesn't make any sense to me
      • If I clicked that link I'd expect to see the event's own site, not just a short entry about it
      • Lotheric
        it's a 'page' (as in webpage) not a site (as in website), it's the home of that artist on musicbrainz
      • I don't see anything wrong with it
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: but https://musicbrainz.org/artist/6a0b0138-dc06-4d... is our official homepage :)
      • reosarevok
        Argh.
      • Well, whatever, I'll just keep on not adding the links for now
      • IMO that link is wrong, and unless there's a musicbrainzsoundteam.org or something we shouldn't have an official homepage link there at all
      • But I don't feel like wasting time on this either
      • Lotheric didn't read the whole thing... You guys were arguing about the musicbrainzsoundteam homepage ? lol
      • No, about events
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: it makes semantically no difference to me whether it is a separate official homepage or a subpage of main artist/label/place official website, it is still official, maybe the current relationship type description should be extended to allow this.
      • Lotheric
        ah
      • reosarevok
        But that kind of usage is why we had to rename the RG one to standalone website
      • Lotheric
        still funny though
      • :)
      • reosarevok
        Because people were linking to discography entries in the artist's website, which is just wrong
      • CatQuest agrees with reosarevok
      • CatQuest
        strongly
      • Freso
        reosarevok: There are many times where I would have liked to link some page to an entity but there wasn’t really a good relationship to use for it. E.g., a Release/Release Group to a (sub)page an an artist’s or label’s website. Or some artists will have a page for each of the constellations they play in, but the constellations themselves do not have their own official websites.
      • I think it’d be great if we got a way to link these, without making it BBC specific.
      • reosarevok
        Agreed (and for some cases where they get used a lot we could even have autoselect etc) but we'd need a good name for the stuff
      • Freso
        I just essentially copied my above comment to the ticket. :p
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      • ajshell1
        Is there a way for me to add a bunch of ISRC codes at once?
      • reosarevok
        ajshell1: not at the moment, but that should change in a couple weeks
      • The old mechanism broke when we removed the old deprecated web service and the new one requires a couple changes
      • Or wait. bitmap: is the CORS stuff in beta?
      • ajshell1
        Thanks. If my usage of the grep tool is correct, I have 178 cue sheets with ISRCs in them. So I'll wait for when it's better
      • Or should I say, Ripgrep (https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep) since normal grep doesn't support EAC's UTF-16LE .log files.
      • reosarevok
        Yeah, seems https://magicisrc-beta.kepstin.ca/ still uses the test server (which doesn't run on real data
      • But should be two weeks then :)
      • kepstin
        Yeah, I'll put the tool up at https://magicisrc.kepstin.ca/ once it's usable on the real db. (the old link will be a redirect to that, it'll still work)
      • Please try out the ui on the beta version and share any feedback you have.
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      • ajshell1
        How do I handle female artists who have gotten married partway through their career and changed their last name?
      • CatQuest
        complain about the patriarky
      • ok no, change the name
      • ajshell1
        I'd like some more practical advice
      • CatQuest
        and use artist credits
      • change the name using "edit artist" and do not select "change artist credits"
      • use artist credits , using the name on the release/thing they release
      • often, especially if established, an artist will still use the old name on releases
      • ajshell1
        This artist is the opposite of established
      • She's a singer in a college town bar band
      • CatQuest
        if they are known "professionally" ie "artist name" is the old name, then don't rename but add an "legal name" alias
      • ok, in this case probably the name shoudl be changed
      • you cna add an alias with the old name and the new name and use dates on thme to show whne the change happened
      • (in addition)
      • ajshell1
        So I should create the artist page with the maiden name, than add an alias for the new name?
      • CatQuest
        what? no
      • rename the original artist
      • ajshell1
        And then use the maiden name as the alias?
      • And should I check "This is the primary alias for this locale" at any point?
      • CatQuest
        you can add the old name as an alias (can and should) as "legal name" and use dates (from birth to marriage day) and a second alias with the new name (also as "legal") which has a start date on the marriage day
      • nah
      • shouldn't really have a locale
      • (unless she was not married in a differnt place :D)
      • now, for anything that was released prior to the name change, that should have artist credits with the old name. that is done on the release an recordings so if those aren't added yet no need to worry about that yet
      • ajshell1
        Also, based on the fact that "Sort Name" is a thing, I've finally come to the conclusion that the Japanese and the Hungarians were right all along
      • CatQuest
        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just press "guess" it should 9 out of 10 do it right
      • oh also for japanese the sortname should be in latin (romaji)
      • ajshell1
        I'm only doing my own discs here, so I only have this to worry about: https://musicbrainz.org/release/b6e5ebff-1a61-4...
      • CatQuest
        kepstin: is "login" supposed to do anything on https://magicisrc-beta.kepstin.ca/ ?
      • ajshell1
        How a Taiwanese bootleg ended up in an American thrift store still baffles me
      • CatQuest
        why not? I'm sure lots of taiwanese triftstores have american crap in them :DD
      • kepstin: hmm ifi paste a "beta" link in that (which admittedly goes to test) it won't do anything. might want to let it ignore the *.musicbrainz.org part
      • kepstin: also I like the website and it works, but it would also be great if there was a "paste everything here" block the same as on jesus' isrc submitting thing https://magicisrc-beta.kepstin.ca/?%3F%3Fmbid=6...
      • (or did he create a script for nikki's old site? i forget now :D)
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      • fonts are a tiny bit large (had to zoom out twice to see it comfortable :D)
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      • welp. I put in some bogus isrcs to test and it just redirected to the first page with "https://magicisrc-beta.kepstin.ca/?[object+FormData]=" as url