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      • reosarevok
        SothoTalKer: a sibling label is just a different word for a sublabel, isn't it? I mean, unless they literally create a second company, it's just an imprint of the first label
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      • SothoTalKer
        reosarevok: it isnt. unless you consider parents to be siblings aswell. ;)
      • sometimes/often companies use different sub-labels for different genres of music, those sibling-labels are currently only connected by their parent-label
      • well, labels have always been the poor cousin of musicbrainz, so meh (:
      • dseomn
        catalog numbers can be emoji, right?
      • context: I'm working on my next "hit" single, Electric Vuvuzela Baghorn, and I'm thinking of "πŸ”ŒπŸŽˆπŸŽΊπŸ”Š" for the catalog number
      • Rotab
        πŸ€”
      • elomatreb[m]
        Getting ready to release my new album, ""
      • dseomn
        elomatreb[m]: really? I've thought about doing something like that, but I haven't bothered yet
      • elomatreb[m]
        No, just joking, sorry :)
      • dseomn
        that's too bad, I was looking forward to hearing it
      • CatQuest
        dseomn: AWESOME
      • also afaik catalogue numbers are freetext so yes emoji?
      • barcode has to be a numeral value thoguh, but like, it's a barcode :D
      • anyway for a non-excisiting space named release, there might be some esoteric unicode that lets yo udo that withouth stripping it away
      • but, alas "" will probably just be considered "[untitled]" :/
      • unless "" <-- is the exact title (ie double qutationmarks)
      • CatQuest operates the "sillyname" tag, believe me, I've seen it aaall
      • dseomn
        my favorite unicode code point for messing with field validation is MONGOLIAN VOWEL SEPARATOR
      • CatQuest
        .3.
      • dseomn
        it looks like a zero-width space (i.e., nothing), but it doesn't register as whitespace, so it's not usually trimmed
      • CatQuest
        awesomesauce
      • I like VARIATION SELECTOR-15
      • it is intended to turn those icky colourful images int oproper font emoji (black and white)
      • dseomn
        ooh, I haven't used that, but I like the goal
      • CatQuest
        :D
      • if you do use πŸ”ŒπŸŽˆπŸŽΊπŸ”Š as a catalogue number, please use it!
      • SothoTalKer
        please don't
      • CatQuest
        SothoTalKer: sush
      • dseomn
        I'd rather have color emoji for this specific release
      • CatQuest
        aw
      • well i see it as black and white anyway :D
      • whne is it getting released?
      • dseomn
        if I ever make a sequel to "Sweet Suites, Volume 1", I hope it has a Unicode Suite, which I can do all sorts of stuff with ;)
      • CatQuest is itching ot test this cat#
      • elomatreb[m]
        Someone should make a release with titles consisting exclusively of empty strings, NULL bytes, PUA codepoints, etc
      • CatQuest
        literally iching?
      • dseomn
        videos are good to go, I'm doing (hopefully) final audio review now. still waiting to hear back from one person about the dedication, and still need to do cover design
      • CatQuest
        if you want a suggestion for covers. Fish is always good
      • CatQuest lieks fish
      • elomatreb[m]
        Mojibake-as-Artists-Intent
      • CatQuest likes fish
      • 🐟️
      • CatQuest
        fish!
      • π“†Ÿ 𓆝
      • elomatreb[m]
        🎣
      • 🍣
      • CatQuest
        fish
      • that's sushi
      • elomatreb[m]
        (A story in three emoji)
      • dseomn
        CatQuest: I took photos of the horrendous instrument, so those will probably be the main feature of the cover. it's just a matter of picking which photos and laying them out and stuff
      • CatQuest
        made with fish, but also other things
      • dseomn: neat
      • dseomn
        elomatreb[m]: I fully intend to include mojibake if I ever write and release Unicode Suite
      • CatQuest
        emoji-bake?
      • :DDDD
      • elomatreb[m]
        nice
      • Looking forward to ID3v2.3 tags with non-UTF-8 encoding finally going away
      • SothoTalKer
        there was a time when catalog "numbers" where meant to exist, so releases can be easily found and sorted, not to display some strange artistic freedom
      • CatQuest
        SothoTalKer: sush
      • dseomn
        it's a database field… I play with those
      • CatQuest
        !m dseomn
      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, dseomn!
      • dseomn
        ❀️
      • elomatreb[m]
        If catalog numbers were enough for releases to be easily found and sorted, MBIDs would be superflous
      • CatQuest genuinely thinks that btw
      • CatQuest
        elomatreb[m]: exactly!
      • dseomn
        I mean, at least my catalog numbers are unique, so far. combined with my label MBID (but not name), they're reasonable-ish for finding and sorting my releases
      • SothoTalKer
        in a way, they are. just another identifier like barcode or discogs id :p
      • CatQuest
        that's actually a good point
      • elomatreb[m]
        Plenty of the big labels just use numeric sequences for their catalog numbers, so they easily collide given enough time
      • SothoTalKer
        you probably had to be more creative with the label name then. just add some emojis to it, maybe?
      • dseomn
        SothoTalKer: my label name is [no label]
      • SothoTalKer
        the "numeric sequences" are actually part of the barcode ^^
      • dseomn
        catalog numbers are many decades older than barcodes though, right?
      • CatQuest
        these days, yes often. esp things liek universal. the cat# is a section (r the whole) ean/barcode thinger
      • but back in the day, this was not true
      • SothoTalKer
        it really depends on the label, yes
      • elomatreb[m]
        Yeah, and even EANs/UPCs will collide simply as a result of not being long enough numbers
      • CatQuest
        and recency
      • like 20 year old releases can have a barcode and catalogue# hat is totally not the same or even a section of
      • SothoTalKer
        actually, in theory, there should be no collisions at all
      • CatQuest
        in theory you liek music SothoTalKer
      • dseomn
        there's a solution to the collision issue: https://musicbrainz.org/release/ef83d7bf-10c3-4...
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      • elomatreb[m]
        If you assume the assigning body for the codes is eternal and vigilant, and stops issuing IDs altogether once they run out