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      • Scruloose
        Hey folks, I'm looking for advice on managing multiple live versions of individual songs (using beets, in case that's relevant)...
      • Between the style guide for concert recordings and beets' custom Path format strings, I think I have the case of a bootleg of an entire concert sorted out
      • darwin
        don't ask to ask, just ask?
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      • Scruloose
        But in the case of "hey, I really like how this artist plays with the interpretation of this one song from show to show, so I have seventeen live recordings of just this song"... What's the right way to handle disambiguating them, by date/venue/city, whatever
      • Sorry, my intent was to establish the context for the question, not to ask permission to ask a question.
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      • darwin
        well, in the case of phish, they sometimes do two shows on the same night
      • so actually none of those are disambiguating
      • for most artists, it would be, heh
      • or maybe I'm wrong, and am misremembering?
      • but yeah, ultimately date alone is probably disambiguating?
      • Scruloose
        Yeah, I've come across an example or two of an early show and a late show on the same day. It's an edge case, but...
      • Does the date tag support full YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS timestamp format? The spec here: http://id3.org/id3v2.4.0-structure seems to indicate that this is allowed?
      • And is there an equivalent for the "live" albumtype but for an individual recording?
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      • elomatreb[m]
        Scruloose: The ID3v2.4 specifies a lot of things, sadly player support is very spotty
      • Scruloose
        Haha yes, that's very true. But as long as I can cram the information in there in a way that beets can see it (and thus incorporate it into the path/file-naming logic), I'm not too concerned about whether players are aware of it for this purpose.
      • But I don't want to try and add tags that musicbrainz itself will strip out or truncate as being invalid.
      • ...assuming that's even how things work. I haven't yet done any messing around with submitting or editing on MB, only reading.
      • elomatreb[m]
        Musicbrainz as a database does not support time-of-day resolution for timestamp fields (release dates, etc)
      • With the exception of Events I guess, which can have a start time
      • Scruloose
        Okay, fair enough. Does it have a "live" flag that can be set on an individual recording?
      • elomatreb[m]
        The convention is to enter the live recording information into its disambiguation comment (See https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Recording#Liv...), and, if you relate the recording to a Work, you can set the "live" attribute on that relationship
      • Scruloose
        Ah, okay. That seems promising, thanks! I may still have to do some finicky "custom attribute" stuff in beets for my purpose, because I don't think its MB integration goes quite that far... but that's my problem, not a shortcoming of Musicbrainz.
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      • darwin
        what band(s)?
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      • n1tr0maverick
        hey everyone! is there anyone who can help me with Acoustid
      • yvanzo
        hi n1tr0maverick: probably, maybe if you ask :)
      • n1tr0maverick
        hey thanks in advance! i can't authenticate myself to acoustid when i try to get my api key
      • it shows that the authentication failed when i use musicbrainz/google to sign in
      • yvanzo
        oh ok, for development questions, #metabrainz has better audience :)
      • n1tr0maverick
        ah okay cool, thank you!!
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      • Scruloose
        @darwin: Sorry, I wandered off without hitting "away". It's Tori Amos.
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      • And honestly, for these cases I'm okay with having them suffixed with .1 and .2 in my directory structure, which is what beets does by default with duplicates.
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      • (I'm okay with that once I figure out how to pull the disambig stuff mentioned by elomatreb[m] from the MB database into my beets path generator as needed, that is.)
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      • iconoclasthero
        hey
      • when copying and pasting artist credits it doesn't copy/paste the Artist as credited field.
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      • reosarevok
        Huh
      • It certainly used to
      • iconoclasthero
        is it working for you?
      • i tried it, didn
      • 't seem to work, so i did it manually
      • reosarevok
        I'll test
      • Maybe we broke it
      • I tried and it worked here (Chrome on Ubuntu, what are you using?)
      • iconoclasthero
        I didn't try to see if it would only change e.g., the "Sonny Boy Williamson I" track entries to the correct SBW and put the correct credited it properly.
      • yes chrome 79/ubuntu 18.04
      • let me try it again then
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      • Step one: https://imgur.com/eGms0fO (copy)
      • Step two: https://imgur.com/0YgvYpv (paste)
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      • *however*, when i clicked change all entries that match SBWI to this, it did it properly.
      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: around?
      • iconoclasthero: if you manage to reproduce it consistently, please add a jira ticket (https://tickets.metabrainz.org/)
      • Guess not rn. CatQuest: when you're back, any idea what "pumoano" can be?