OK, here’s a Picard WTF. I just upgraded (as per previous discussion) to 1.4.2. I know, I know, version 2+ is out. But this is nice for being able to handle images better, including apparently pulling from Amazon as well as Internet Archive. But for this release: https://musicbrainz.org/release/226843d8-de61-4d2… which has been working fine, I now get, in Picard, a rectangular grey image with the text “Nog geen af
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crism
This image is not in the list of images for that release.
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aereaux
Hello. I have a question on how to enter something. I recently got a physical CD that includes two extra tracks for download. Should I enter those as standalone recordings, or add a new release to the release group with an extra medium that includes the extra tracks, or something else?
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kepstin
aereaux: how were the two extra tracks included? a physical download code printed and packaged in the release? included on your digital receipt or in an email? is it specific to a particular store?
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kepstin
in many cases it would be appropriate to add a new release with a second medium of type 'digital media' for this sort of thing.
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aereaux
kepstin: Yeah, sorta. There is a digital download code included with the physical CD, and there is also an option on the site where I bought it to download without using the code.
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aereaux
OK, that sounds like the best solution to me as well. Thanks.
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kepstin
yeah, that sounds like the best option for this release
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alf98
Hi, I'm currently tagging songs by underground artist and have doubts regarding 2 cases. 1) single song is released with little to no prior information, sometimes even completely without official release, file just appears on shared server. Should it be added as Single release or standalone recording? 2) Songs initially uploaded standalone and
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alf98
later given tracknumbers and released as EP. How should they be treated?
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elomatreb[m]
Standalone recordings sound like a reasonable option for the first case, but it's up to you if it merits a "release" event (e.g. if there is associated art, many people will just make a single release)
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elomatreb[m]
The latter case definitely should be a proper release, with the release date probably being the date the EP/tracklist itself is released, not the individual recordings. If you added standalone recordings, you can reuse them in the release tracklist
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alf98
well, in the case of old releases where the information become lost I used standalone, but in case of the fresh one missing release date seems like a pity
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elomatreb[m]
If it's worth it to make a release, you're free to do so. There are no notability criteria per se
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alf98
ok, thanks :)
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elomatreb[m]
You can also preserve the date for the standalone recordings either manually in its annotation field, or using relationships where appropriate
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alf98
but I don't think it will be used by taggers
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elomatreb[m]
E.g. if it's publicly (legally) downloadable, you can add that as a download URL relationship and set a starting date
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elomatreb[m]
No, taggers in general don't really understand standalone recordings
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elomatreb[m]
The "release date" is inherently tied to a release existing
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alf98
what in the case standalone recordings are later uploaded together as "singles [20XX-20XX]" with tracklist? same as 2?
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alf98
tbf I think it will become significant problem as popularity of singles and digital-only releases increase
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elomatreb[m]
Standalone recordings are an "escape hatch" for the cases where a release is either entirely unverifiable or actually too minor to add
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elomatreb[m]
If it's worth it to treat individual files as proper singles, that's the right thing to do
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alf98
ok, thanks
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darwin
hrm, weird, there's no traxsource importer? I have found my first release that is traxsource-only
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physkets
Hi!
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physkets
How do I add cover art image to an audio file?
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physkets
(using Picard)
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outsidecontext
physkets: manually: if you select the file loaded into picard you can drag and drop an image file on the cover art box at th lower right
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physkets
I think I did try that... let me do it again
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outsidecontext
physkets: automatically: if you tag your files against MB releases, you can enable cover art providers in options. this will automatically pull cover art for loaded releases from the online sources. builtin available is the Cover Art Archive, which is the cover art you see on mb.org
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physkets
Ya, ofcourse, that is how I notmally do it, but what I mean is for albums or songs that either are not there, or don't have cover art there.
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outsidecontext
got it
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physkets
I need to do them manually
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outsidecontext
we should have some user discoverable UI element to open the file chooser for cover art (context menu entry, maybe even just clicking on the empty box)
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physkets
that would be very helpful
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outsidecontext
there is a lot reliance on drag and drop in picard :) if you know it it is great, if not you probably never notice
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physkets
This doens't seem to be working....
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physkets
Drag-dropping an image onto the "CD" box while the correct music file is selected, doesn't seem to be doing anything.
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physkets
Moreover, the mouse has a red-stop-circle-with-slash sign, idicating that I can't drop it there (I'm guessing)
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physkets
outsidecontext: Is there any other way?
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outsidecontext
what kind of file is it? maybe it is unsupported
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physkets
JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01, resolution (DPI), density 96x96, segment length 16, progressive, precision 8, 480x480, components 3
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outsidecontext
works for me. I'm AFK for a while, but can check back later
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physkets
I'm on Linux, and using a Wayland-based DE.... might that have anything to do with this?
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outsidecontext
physkets: could well be. I'd recommend you to not use the native Wayland backend for Qt5 but instead force it to use X11 (need to lookup, but it was to set some environment variable or uninstall the Wayland backend if it is a separate package on your distro). The Wayland Qt5 support has some issues, drag and drop issues being part of this
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outsidecontext
and of course make sure you have xwayland installed
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physkets
outsidecontext: Ya, looks like that's it. When I use srat both the file browser and Picard with the env variable: `QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb`, then the drag-and-drop works.
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physkets
But it would be nice to have somethign like a file-browser popping up to allow selection, like you suggested.
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outsidecontext
physkets: good to hear it works. Qt's Wayland support is good already, but not 100% there yet unfortunately. I guess xwayland will be with us for a while :D
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physkets
outsidecontext: Are you sure it is a Qt issue? I mean drag-and-drop works fine in other Qt-based applications, I think...
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outsidecontext
physkets: I'm pretty confident it is not a Picard issue. It could also be an issue of the wayland implementation, or the file manager of course.
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physkets
Then I should report it in the right place.
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outsidecontext
physkets: which Qt5 version and what Wayland compositor is it? There have been many fixes to Qt with each release
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physkets
outsidecontext: Qt Version: 5.15.0 and KDE Plasma Version: 5.19.4
(with the same "This medium format cannot have a disc ID attached." title message)
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reosarevok
I'll send a PR for now, feel free to comment on it :)
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chaban
Someone tried to change the sort order of release events: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/72090837 How come they were able to enter this, shouldn't this have been rejected?
