lmaonade, so with all scripts turned of dropbox actually displays the image fine - amid a whole bunch o agreive warning text that the site no works(but if I turn on scripts it takes ages to load an the image in full can't be seen before I click twice and circumvent scripts to dl anyway)
= dropbooks as an image viewer works better with js *off* 😹
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cheezmo2
CatQuest, having advised me not to use [silence] between a two names on a track with a long silence and then a hidden track, would you care to chime in here? https://musicbrainz.org/edit/73757379
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CatQuest
idk if that helps :D
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.. wait so is there a current custom now to put any and *all* unlisted bonus tracks in [] brackets? regardless if it's named unofficially or not?
.. is that styleguide? reosarevok ^
elomatreb[m]
I think that only applies in the case where there is no title given anywhere?
cheezmo2
A hidden track follows the "[unknown]" guideline as I read it which doesn't mention ever leaving the title in brackets. I think it gets a little murky when something is perhaps both [unknown] and [untitled].
CatQuest
mhm
cheezmo2
I hadn't read that thoroughly and was putting all hidden track names in brackets as I thought it provided useful information that the title was not listed anywhere on the release. Without the brackets there is nothing to indicate it is hidden unless one adds an annotation to the release.
CatQuest
yea, that info should be for annotations, iiuc
can something be [unknown] but not [untitled] though 🤔
a title necessitates some knowledge? :D
cheezmo2
Artists often later give a name to something that was a "hidden" track, or a common name is adopted. So yea, some knowledge beyond what is on the release is required.
"If the artist gives the track a name somewhere else (for example, on their website) that name should be used instead of [unknown]. If the title of a track added as [unknown] is given at a later point, the [unknown] title should be updated. If the track is confirmed to have no title, it should be changed to [untitled]."
Sounds to me like the square brackets are only for "widely known unofficial names" regardless.
OK, every rereading I get more confused!
Here is my stab at it. It is a hidden track so it is [unknown]. The track is confirmed to have no official title so it is changed to [untitled]. It then gets a widely known unofficial name so we use that name in brackets. So for the case of a hidden track it really could be [unknown], [untitled], a name, or a name in brackets, depending on all kinds of research to determine if it was an official name.
Which I think is exactly what Cat just commented on the edit. I think I finally understand it. Only took me 12 years.
the interesting things are size/meterials/spesifics, and history (what it evolved from/to) dates of this and als oif there areinfros about what it's *not*
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SothoTalKer
CatQuest: i will have a look. can you ping me on friday? o.o