I am trying to enter some older works of mine when I led R Band, but can't figure out how to declare "R Band" as the artist. From the R Band page I tried to add work
hibiscuskazenek1
Is "R Band" in the database yet?
TheBikeGuitarist
since yesterday lol
with its three members
and linked to from multiple pages of my website
hibiscuskazenek1
If there's an MBID for the band, use it
TheBikeGuitarist
tried that but only options were as writer or composer etc
not as "band" or "group"
hibiscuskazenek1
What kind of relationship are you after?
Original performer?
TheBikeGuitarist
might not be ready yet.... had two story/concept albums in 1994... planned to enter all songs as works then each album as an aggregate work
I am the artist ya
hibiscuskazenek1
You should add the releases too
TheBikeGuitarist
well that is the tricky part
hibiscuskazenek1
Then you can link the resultant recordings to the workd
works*
How is it tricky?
TheBikeGuitarist
in 1994 printed songbooks handed them out to audiences performed the albums as albums
hibiscuskazenek1
Oh, so it's not a recorded medium?
TheBikeGuitarist
but never recorded and released as vinyl or cd or anything like that
I have recordings of ten of the twelve available, but my domain isn't on whitelist yet for free downloads
I do about half the songs still in my shows twenty years later
hibiscuskazenek1
There's a free download whitelist?
TheBikeGuitarist
the whitelist for valid links
hibiscuskazenek1 was not aware of this
like wikipedia etc
hibiscuskazenek1
That's autoselect, not a whitelist
TheBikeGuitarist
I can't offer an mp3 from my website as THE example of the song
hibiscuskazenek1
You can link it using "download for free"
unless something is stopping you
TheBikeGuitarist
not if my site isn't on the whitelist....but getting confused now
hibiscuskazenek1
There is no download whitelist
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We only have whitelists for info databases, lyric sites and score databases
TheBikeGuitarist
there is something called whitelist that when I tried to add a link to my website said because I wasn't on it it was not allowed
hibiscuskazenek1
If you're trying to link to a piece of sheet music, that may be what's being blocked
TheBikeGuitarist
and was told to open a ticket for it
no sheet music nope
hibiscuskazenek1
Can you show me the ticket?
TheBikeGuitarist
but reason here tonight is asking how to indicate "R Band" as the "Artist" for a "Work" maybe not possible....
hibiscuskazenek1
There really isn't
TheBikeGuitarist
have not opened it yet but hold on I will get the info I was given
what about the aggregate work of the story album (12 songs in specific sequence)??? so I can't list R Band as the band the album is from?
hibiscuskazenek1
Work artists are normally represented via Recording-Work relationships, but that's not possible in this case
TheBikeGuitarist
I have fallen through cracks in the system my whole life. happening again lol. I don't fit any existing categories lol
hibiscuskazenek1
You can link the band or its members as writing the works (that's about it)
You're not alone in that regard
TheBikeGuitarist
oh so list the band as "writer"? oh yeah could have done that
writer for the album?
hibiscuskazenek1
If there were individual contributors that took precedence those take precedence
Oy vey, this is tricky
TheBikeGuitarist
i have a piece of every song, about 98 percent credits composing and lyricising
hibiscuskazenek1
I don't think albums are normally considered aggregate works
If there's an underlying story that might change things
TheBikeGuitarist
unless they are concept or story albums. ...
hibiscuskazenek1 has never seen any aggregate works added for concept albums
both mine were R College Story and then that story continued for another story album as R Blonde Story both 1994
when songs are meant to be taken in specific sequence I read the docs here about that
CallerNo6
I would certainly add concept albums as a super-work
TheBikeGuitarist
sounds like my story albums quality as aggregate works based on my understanding of doc I read
oh I like that! I'll start making capes and tights for my albums!
then the two super works together (since second one continues same character as first album) would be a super duper work?
CallerNo6
somewhere there must be an ur-work
TheBikeGuitarist
and btw since you are CallerNo6 you win our grand prize of three free kittens
sorry tired and silly
CallerNo6
does that include free delivery?
TheBikeGuitarist
mother cat already delivered them
CallerNo6
can't put a price on that, I guess
hibiscuskazenek1
Kitties! :#
VxJasonxV
hibiscuskazenek1 and TheBikeGuitarist have the same length of nick
TheBikeGuitarist
think I'll see if I can list "R Band" as "writer" of the song and still have the separate persons listed as composer, lyricist, etc. Good idea? Bad idea?
I should be The Bicycling Guitarist but was truncated.
hibiscuskazenek1
Mine got messed up after I had to change wireless access points
(for some reason one is refusing to connect to certain sites)
VxJasonxV
It looks cool to have it fill so much of the screen
oops sorry I see kitties on the screen and go nuts
think it happens to a lot of people based on what's on the internet
hibiscuskazenek1
The Internet does love cats
TheBikeGuitarist
do ya think that would be the better song for me to go on America's got talent with (shortened to 90 seconds?) or an instrumental?
got an upbeat instrumental called Traveling would be my top other choice, but the kitty song is so fun might they like it more?
hibiscuskazenek1
I'd sing it too
They'd probably ask you to sing if you played an instrumental
TheBikeGuitarist
but I am not The Bicycling Singer :(
I will ask the producer who is assisting me what she thinks I should go with, and probably take her advice
CallerNo6
I would think you'd want to choose a song that really lets your personality come through.
TheBikeGuitarist
kitty it is then, or traveling.... those are my two faves for 90 second impress the folks songs
have fun folks guess I'll enter more stuff later peace out
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yeeeargh
heyho, i have some questions about relating rateyourmusic to musicbrainz. i just stumbled upon an edit where a mb-release has been related to rym-album. i think this should be related to mb-release-groups instead. while looking at the rym page i noticed that they have entities called issues which would be better suited to mb-releases