Hi. I’m trying to setup my mirror and I’m getting stuck on creating the databases. Output is here: http://pastebin.com/Kd9c51u0 Can someone help me out?
2015-04-10 10045, 2015
DontBeThatGuy
Nevermind….I figured it out
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derwin
yay
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petern_
Hi, I have a "special edition" 2 CD release which contains 2 releases which already exist separately on MB as digital media releases. How should I go about entering this?
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CallerNo6
hi petern_. That would be considered a separate release (and separate release group).
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CallerNo6
... unless the second disc is a "bonus disc".
2015-04-10 10041, 2015
petern_
"Special double disc edition inlcudes extra mini album" heh
2015-04-10 10005, 2015
CallerNo6
Okay, yeah, that sounds like the second case. Link?
2015-04-10 10027, 2015
CallerNo6
(or, rather, 'links'? to both the special edition and the original)
Leftmost: my initial reaction is "NO!" and "we shouldn't change data because of media players"
2015-04-10 10053, 2015
CatQuest
but maybe? i don't know
2015-04-10 10021, 2015
Leftmost
The reasoning given I strongly disagree with, yes. I think I received feedback on including the release title in the track names at one point, though. (For that specific release, as it's not classical.)
2015-04-10 10018, 2015
CallerNo6
If it were a compilation of show tunes, we'd keep the show title.
The same basic disagreement has come up in CSG in the past. 'If the entire album is from one superwork, why do we keep repeating that in the track titles?'
2015-04-10 10009, 2015
Leftmost
I feel the work name should be kept in, but I'm basically looking for someone to tell me "no, remove it, here's why" before I vote no on those edits.
2015-04-10 10015, 2015
CallerNo6
I agree with CatQuest. "but it looks dumb on my iThingy" isn't a persuasive argument.
2015-04-10 10030, 2015
Leftmost
No, definitely not.
2015-04-10 10027, 2015
Leftmost
I'm just thinking back to the discussion with fmera and wondering if I should let the edit go through despite its terrible reasoning. (I.e., is it right for the wrong reasons?)
2015-04-10 10055, 2015
Leftmost
I think my view comes down to "opera style" being artist intent, thus we should use our idea of opera style.
2015-04-10 10005, 2015
CatQuest
yea
2015-04-10 10056, 2015
CallerNo6
What would be the "right" reason for removing the supertitle?
2015-04-10 10029, 2015
CallerNo6 has his own ideas on that, but is still thinking through them.
2015-04-10 10009, 2015
Leftmost
CallerNo6, fmera's argument was essentially that it's not actually an opera and so opera style isn't appropriate. I think it's a worthwhile argument to consider, but I was never fully convinced of it. If the consensus was with him, though, that would be the "right" reason, I think.
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CallerNo6
I wasn't thinking 'opera'. I was thinking 'theatre'.
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CallerNo6
Theatre style was somewhat modeled on classical, but it didn't inherit the explicit guideline about including the supertitle.
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CallerNo6
(for tracks)
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Leftmost
I've voted No. If someone can convince me otherwise, I'll switch.
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reosarevok
Meh, my stuff didn't go through, did it
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CatQuest
uhm.. you said something?
2015-04-10 10042, 2015
reosarevok
Yeah - I've been supposed to look at that
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reosarevok
But I haven't yet and also I don't know that much about theatre :)
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reosarevok
In this case though, it feels that the switch is to no-man's-land
2015-04-10 10052, 2015
reosarevok
I mean, I can see the arguments of "songs stand alone so we shouldn't add the supertitle" and "we should add it everywhere" but removing it and still leaving "Act X" feels... strange
2015-04-10 10033, 2015
CatQuest thinks musicals is not too dissimilar from theatr what is not too dissimilar from opera/classicla -ish things
2015-04-10 10037, 2015
CatQuest
they are related atleast
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Leftmost
I will choose to interpret that as "reo agrees with me and I am therefore correct". ;)
2015-04-10 10031, 2015
CatQuest
somethings are songs. they sort of stand alone, especialyl if they get really popular (see "Memory") but they are intended as a part of an entire block of stuff. and several times the music in these songs" use the some leimotifs
2015-04-10 10049, 2015
reosarevok
hahaha
2015-04-10 10023, 2015
reosarevok
Leftmost: I do feel you're correct in voting No here, yes. I would probably abstain if the change was to just "Song Title" and not "Act X: Song Title (Chars)"
2015-04-10 10037, 2015
reosarevok
(and let people with more of an opinion about theatre as a whole have their say)
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bitmap
reosarevok: for the guess case stuff, I should probably remove pres -> presents too?
2015-04-10 10055, 2015
reosarevok
Yup, missed that
2015-04-10 10045, 2015
CallerNo6
My only reservation about going with just song titles (for something like PotO) is that you'd get a track called "Overture". I hate that.
2015-04-10 10045, 2015
CatQuest
CallerNo6: and there you have my defined reason for why my reaction was "NO" thank you :)
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CatQuest
hey I'd really really appreciate if I could get some votes on this merge http://musicbrainz.org/edit/32585666 so that I can use the "right" RG for this thing I'm adding
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Freso
You realise it will still take 48 hours to close, right?
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CatQuest
what?
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CatQuest
/48/
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CatQuest
??
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CatQuest
ok I knew some was added but it was 24 not 48 right
