#musicbrainz

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      • kepstin
        http://musicbrainz.org/edit/34293830 man, this is always the worst kind of edit to have to make :(
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      • CallerNo6
        at age 20? that's not how this is supposed to work. :-(
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      • CatQuest
        to whoever it was linking to imgur http://imgur.com/gallery/PbEfqq1 for linking
      • it's 3 AM you motherfucker!!!
      • :<
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      • it was freso
      • RAAARRGGG
      • CallerNo6
        no it's not
      • that's crazy. it's still light out.
      • CatQuest
        silly caller, you live on the wrong side of the world
      • (also this is norway, the sun is up in an hour or two it wil be twilight already)
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      • kepstin
        hmm. I wonder if we can get piapro.jp available as a lyrics site
      • it's a site where vocaloid producers often upload their backing tracks and lyrics explicitly so people can make covers of their songs
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      • Freso
        kepstin: Make a STYLE ticket?
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Do you ever listen to a song from your childhood only to find it sounds nothing like you remember it?
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      • pankkake
        sometimes, but once one made me cry
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        which one?
      • pankkake
      • the earliest thing I remember watching on TV
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        looks like an anime
      • let's see if I can dredge up the original Japanese name
      • pankkake
        I might have more success finding episodes that way. I tried a few years ago to get some French one but could not find anything
      • ones*
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I'm getting read timeouts again
      • reosarevok
        hibiscuskazenek1: yeah, I get search errors in beta too - probably index building stuff and should be temporary but I've asked in case
      • search seems back, is stuff better for you too?
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I'm still getting errors, lemme try again
      • nope, still not working
      • (I'm running beta in the tab I'm using)
      • pankkake
        http://coverlib.com/stats/ they manage to have a lot more kb per image, but I'm not surprised here (very high quality usually)
      • 2 TB of cover art, still quite manageable for a single user
      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I don't think I have that much HD space
      • pankkake
        these days drives <2TB are boring to me :)
      • gioele
        pankkake: do you know what is the legal status of those cover arts? Could they be uploaded to MB/Archive.org?
      • pankkake
        the coverlib ones? I don't think they have a better (or any) legal status
      • apparently incorportated in Germany
      • gioele
        pankkake: somebody should get in contact. For example, the very latest cover uploaded to coverlib is a 2000x2000px scan + scans of the booklet. The cover for the same release in MB is a 1000x1000px scan with no booklet images
      • pankkake
        I use coverlib to find artwork, but I don't really see how more could be done
      • because they do not really identify individual releases, you have to actually look at the cover art details
      • perhaps could be in guide for finding good images, next to "don't use google images" ;)
      • gioele
        pankkake: I was thinking of a report. There was a report that "guessed" relations between a wikipedia page and a release. You had to check manually, but if it was correct it would create the relation for you in two clicks. Something similar could be done here. You get a list of guesses, if you find an exact match you click somewhere and the cover art edit page is prefilled with the covers found on coverlib
      • pankkake
        ah, yes, that could work
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      • reosarevok
        gioele: remember that needs to be done without the covers ever touching MB servers
      • (if that's doable though, it might be interesting)
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      • gibbon_
        I guess the covers could be loaded by the client from the appropriate page at coverlib... If its OK for the metadata to be processed, I guess that should be enough to suggest cover art for a release, shouldn't it?
      • MB Servers don't have anything to compare the coverart to anyway, so processing them would not be necessary
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      • reosarevok doesn't really know what's enough or not to be honest, I'm not sure how much or how little we're supposed to do with the stuff
      • but thats a person talking who knows nothing about MB infrastructure and should keep quiet on that matter
      • reosarevok
        I would suspect that we wouldn't want to add such a thing to MB directly but it could work as an external tool
      • gibbon_
        My general opinion though is that these relations would be dangerously easy to get wrong
      • reosarevok
        (although if the other site gave specific permission then it might work? dunno)
      • gibbon_
        but thats probably true for a lot more
      • yes, I guess the right people should get in touch and talk about if something like that would be ok and possible
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      • gioele
        a greasemonkey script like those that exist for bandcamp or discogs would be a nice way to implementi it
      • gibbon_
        yep
      • reosarevok
        Yeah, a script would definitely be fine - it would still have to download the images first though since right now we don't have any code to get the images from a URL
      • (it works in Chrome in Windows for some reason because of how it deals with pasting URLs in the "open file" dialog, but it's not an intentional feature)
      • There's a ticket for that, but given the focus is in community things at the moment I doubt it'll be done soon unless a volunteer does it
      • (also I dunno if it would need changes on the IA side to work, probably would...)
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      • (warning: contains classical)
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        is that bad?
      • CallerNo6
        Some people prefer to avoid it :-)
      • The first cover cracks me up. At one point, I think I suggested that you could detect genre by checking "does the cover have a boring pastoral scene?"
      • pankkake
        I can certainly guess genre by most covers
      • CallerNo6
        that would be a hilarious side project
      • pankkake
        http://www.guessthatalbum.com/ this is guessing artist and title, but I did pretty good on it
      • Leftmost
        Now I want to release classical with metal covers.
      • reosarevok
        CallerNo6: that was pretty cool :)
      • Leftmost: why not power metal with old landscape paintings instead! :p
      • Leftmost
        Because I don't like power metal. :-P
      • CallerNo6
        yet
      • CallerNo6 believes we all have the potential to change ourselves for the better
      • Leftmost
        Power metal is not for the better.
      • CallerNo6
        (well, ther est of you do anyway)
      • Leftmost
        Melodeath is obviously where it's at.
      • reosarevok
        Well, it would improve a bit with the classical covers!
      • Maybe they could also dress in fancy suits
      • Guess playing it with acoustic instruments would be going a bit too far
      • CallerNo6
        John zorn can do it, why can't everybody?
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      • wvdp
        how do i edit all the records in a release at the same time?
      • CallerNo6
        wvdp, do you mean all the *recordings* on one release? or all the releases in one *release-group*?