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      • mki_
        CallerNo6: Thanks. So for now, "spoken vocals" for rappers?

        • 2014-04-20 11035, 2014

      • Lotheric
        myself, I just use "vocals"

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      • CallerNo6
        mki_: good question. I think of that as being for non-musical stuff (audio books, podcasts, poetry).

        • 2014-04-20 11048, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        so, yeah, what Lotheric said.

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      • derwin
        reoafk : http://www.terminal313.net/

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      • reoafk
        derwin: :)

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      • reoafk
        Going to bed now but some promising stuff in there, thanks :)

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      • reoafk
        Night!

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      • CallerNo6
        heh. I just noticed I have some songs with ETI "new live version". I should probably change that in MB.

        • 2014-04-20 11021, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        well, then again, it will always be true relative to the release they're on I guess.

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      • Zastai
        what's the rule for Japanese releases where the release itself has the title in English/Latin on front, back & spine but Amazon.jp lists it with a Japanese title? I would assume it should be the English one.

        • 2014-04-20 11010, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Go with whatever the cover art says

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      • Zastai
        thought so. release existed in MB already but with the title from Amazon (and no discid so probably added based only on the amazon listing)

        • 2014-04-20 11006, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Amazon frequently gets details wrong

        • 2014-04-20 11039, 2014

      • Zastai
        well, one thing matters of course, since this is a JP release: which wins, the OBI or the cover? the OBI has the Japanese version on the spine, and the english on the front

        • 2014-04-20 11003, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Is this by a Western artist?

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      • Zastai
        no

        • 2014-04-20 11016, 2014

      • Zastai
        it's a game soundtrack

        • 2014-04-20 11019, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        I'd go with the front cover either way

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      • Zastai
        ok

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Obis tend to have Japanese text on them so shoppers in a store can read what the disc is if they don't know English text

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      • Zastai
        should I treat the release artist the same way? soundtrackstyle would have me not file the release under the composer (sice he's not mentioned on the frot/spine). OBI does list him on the front, but in latin script. So file under the composer but AC as the latin name?

        • 2014-04-20 11008, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Do you have more than the front cover?

        • 2014-04-20 11021, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        I'd only use a Latin AC if he's credited that way inside the booklet

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      • Zastai
        booklet has him that way too

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      • Zastai
        in fact, the page with the release credits is entirely in english

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      • Zastai
        making life unusually easy for me in addig the ARs

        • 2014-04-20 11025, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Normally I stick with Japanese text in that case, but you'll have to ask someone more experienced than me

        • 2014-04-20 11048, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        I normally reserve Latin artist names for releases released outside of Japan

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      • portik
        how to use publisher relationship? it's good for recording only or releases are ok too?

        • 2014-04-20 11059, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Normally I put it on works

        • 2014-04-20 11019, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        If it's listed on the back of the release, list it on the release level

        • 2014-04-20 11011, 2014

      • portik
        I have datasheet

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Not sure what that is

        • 2014-04-20 11030, 2014

      • portik
        which every recording have a publicher column

        • 2014-04-20 11054, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Is it up on the Cover Art Archive or somewhere where I can see it?

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      • portik
        but i added as a release publisher

        • 2014-04-20 11022, 2014

      • portik
        nope sorry. can't find cover art

        • 2014-04-20 11019, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        You might be confusing recording with work

        • 2014-04-20 11043, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Often, when tracks are broken down on a release, it lists publishers nest to songwriters

        • 2014-04-20 11008, 2014

      • portik
        when i look this http://musicbrainz.org/label/c91dcf19-5ec2-4c30-a…

        • 2014-04-20 11027, 2014

      • portik
        i see most people use at recording level and work level

        • 2014-04-20 11053, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        A lot of people make the same mistake

        • 2014-04-20 11010, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        The publisher relationship is mostly meant for works

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        In rarer cases, it might be applicable to a release

        • 2014-04-20 11042, 2014

      • portik
        well, i understand now

        • 2014-04-20 11054, 2014

      • portik
        going to use for works

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      • portik
        thanks HibiscusKazeneko

        • 2014-04-20 11021, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        no problem

        • 2014-04-20 11029, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        a lot of people get confused on this issue

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        even I did at one point

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      • portik afk

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      • HibiscusKazeneko too

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      • CatQuest
        any frankophone peoples? https://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/e65fb2f4-a4a… probably needs french caps fix

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      • Krystof
        francoscribe

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      • simukis_
        should Radio be capitalised as in “!@#$% (Radio This and That)”? I think it should, but guess case guessed lowercase, hence the question.

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      • hawke
        simukis_: yes

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      • hawke
        guess case thinks it's extra title info (like "(remix)" and the like.

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      • flamingspinach
        musicbrainz edit listings look really terrible on my android phone

        • 2014-04-20 11059, 2014

      • flamingspinach
        is this normal?

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      • flamingspinach
        some text is really tiny while other text is gigantic

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      • dufferzafar
        I am adding a release: http://www.amazon.com/Dishkiyaoon-Ganjawala-Khanw…

        • 2014-04-20 11050, 2014

      • dufferzafar
        Should i keep the (feat. artist) part in the title of the songs?

        • 2014-04-20 11017, 2014

      • dufferzafar
        The 7th song also contains [REMIX] in title, is that okay?

        • 2014-04-20 11034, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        has dufferzafar read http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Titles/Featured… ?

        • 2014-04-20 11003, 2014

      • dufferzafar
        No i havent. Sorry. Thanks.

        • 2014-04-20 11042, 2014

      • dufferzafar
        what about the latter? Remix?

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      • CallerNo6
        the style guidelines are only easy to find when you're already familiar with them and know more-or-less what you're looking for :-)

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      • reosarevok
        Remix is OK

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      • reosarevok
        Although it's preferred as (remix)

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      • CallerNo6
        [REMIX] would be "extra title information", which is covered @ http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Titles/Extra_ti…

        • 2014-04-20 11042, 2014

      • dufferzafar
        CallerNo6: I've Bookmarked this.

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      • dufferzafar1
        Why is it so that adding a new release does not need any approval (wrt Votes and such) but editing a release does?

        • 2014-04-20 11034, 2014

      • CatQuest
        it does need a vote of approval, if it gets no votes it will be removed

        • 2014-04-20 11025, 2014

      • dufferzafar1
        Oh. That does make sense.

        • 2014-04-20 11050, 2014

      • dufferzafar1
        I was surprised by the fact that as soon as i added it, it was available to public

        • 2014-04-20 11005, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        dufferzafar1: think of it this way: the more (potentially) destructive an edit is, the more oversight it needs.

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      • CallerNo6
        ('destructive' meaning 'good data might be lost')

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      • dufferzafar
        Shouldn't there be an option to import CDs from Amazon (URL maybe) when adding a release?

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      • reosarevok
        There could be a userscript

        • 2014-04-20 11016, 2014

      • reosarevok
        I suspect actually adding code for it might go against some terms or others

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      • dufferzafar
        The toughest part is copying and pasting (and knowing that this could al have been automated)

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      • dufferzafar
        as in Amazon's terms?

        • 2014-04-20 11026, 2014

      • reosarevok
        Yes

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      • dufferzafar1
        reosarevok: A userscript could scrape data from Amazon's URL and fill entries on the MB page?

        • 2014-04-20 11053, 2014

      • reosarevok
        Well there is one for iTunes

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      • reosarevok
        (but iTunes has an API)

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      • dufferzafar1
        link?

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      • reosarevok
        http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/119410

        • 2014-04-20 11035, 2014

      • dufferzafar1
        Also, Will it still violate terms if i create a script?

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      • Leftmost just doesn't trust Amazon's data overall, but that's him.

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      • CallerNo6 doesn't think amazon data is good enough

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      • CallerNo6
        oh, what he said ^^

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      • Leftmost hugs CallerNo6.