#musicbrainz

jesus2099: what does "load plugins on demand" mean

CallerNo6: same but i was linking at the wrong release in the same RG :)

and "purple theme"

btw I use the session manager extension, it works well

flamingspinach: it means i have a play button to click before it starts the flash or whatever plugins, (this is a setting that can be set for each site and/or globally, as other settings)

flamingspinach: pruple theme, lol

session manager is the one i have found and linked over there ?

flamingspinach: i was not sure if this extension was doing both the main/default/current session AND you can save/load any named session… ?

yup

you can't edit named sessions without first loading them though, unfortunately

i.e. if you want to remove some tabs from a saved session, you must load the session, close the tabs, and re-save the session

same as opera… and is each session a simple plain text file that you can eventually edit ?

session manager's files are giant json files yes

this way i could edit massive sessions

readable/editable ? or they stripped all spaces and returns ?

don't remember, lemme check

thank you very much !

but surely that can be handled within a text editor if that's your wish

thanks to you there is one “?” less in my table ;)

it is compacted (no spaces or line breaks)

opera’s sessions are incredible, even history (back and forward) and scroll position are saved in that simple text file…

for each tab

session manager does that too

yes yes yes, cool !

also some form data I believe

but anyway you are a javascript wizard, I guess you also have the option to add some features to firefox extensions if they're slightly not good enough :)

someone should package 50×FFextensions into a something called “opera plugins for FF.zip”

wrting extensions must be huge work i guess, my scripts are quick wins only, not deep things… ;)

maybe, I have no idea

flamingspinach: what is the shortcut key for paste and go in FF ? (when you have a URL in clipboard)

(ctrl+shift+v doesn’t make it)

there isn't one in plain firefox afaik but vimperator/pentadactyl have "p"

or "P" for in a new tab

you can also do f6 ctrl+v

(focus the address bar and paste into it)

F6, CTRL+V, ENTER… 3 step instead of 1… ;)

ctrl+l also focuses the address bar

vimperator ?

wow http://5digits.org/pentadactyl/

but what ? vi is good ? come on…  ;p

i found http://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/key-config but the list of available stuff that we can shortcut seems limited

ok sorry, i continue searching stuff on my own… it was just in case :)

thanks

Should I create a separate MCA imprint for this? http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r...

separate ?

btw Mari Hamada ! RUNAWAY FROM YESTERDAY ! YEAH !

ok separate, i see… https://musicbrainz.org/search?query=MCA&ty... you mean what a mess ! i just want a plain simple “MCA” nothing more

now either i abandon editing labels or i create exactly what i want and try to ignore what happens with my new label

since firefox is not a text editor, vimperator and pentadactyl are only superficially similar to vim

the main point is to create a modal interface to the browser, where you can use alphabet keys to perform operations instead of having them be wasted on sites which don't usually listen for that kind of input, and even if they do, use it for inconsistent purposes

i’m afraid of successions of keys vi/unix style… i prefer ctrl+this+that kind of shortcuts… anyway i’ll have to try them all

but i’m also afraid of extensions vs. genuine features… i have to go, thanks flamingspinach !

(^_^)/

see ya

ive just added release 92d97229-d2a6-472f-b116-8515bba9252e

im not sure how to mark some of the tracks as live

bkanuka: there are two possible answers

i might have just figured it out. im adding live to the disambiguation on the recording

1. "live" is an attribute of the work-recording relationship. i.e. [this recording]<is a live recording of><this composition>

that's fine, but not one of the two I was thinking of :-)

2. if it's not clear in a tracklist, because there's a live version and a studio version, you can add "(live)" to the track title.

see http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Titles/Extra_...

oh, no, sorry, it's an attribute you can choose for the work-recording relationship

(one of several checkboxes)

guidelines for the recording comment (if you haven't already found them) are @ http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Recording#Liv...

sorry to hit you with so much reading material :-/

ya, ive been reading around but this is actually my first edit and im having trouble actually finding the place where i put in *this* or *that*

so is there some reason we still have "performs as" and "legal name" relationships other than the fact that we don't have AR credits

er, that is, I think the current model (1 to n) is better than trying to cram everything into one mb-artist. I just wish I knew how to improve the integration.

maybe we need something intermediate between ACs and artists, perhaps integrated with aliases

The way I think of it, what's missing is an artist-group.

i just figured out what you meant by recording work relationshio

thanks

bkanuka: oh, yeah, please ask as many questions as you like. somebody will always be around to answer eventually, if not right away.

another question: are individual tracks ever marked as remaster?

I believe that's still in the works.

(track-level mastering info)

but if the entire release is a remaster, you can mark it as such.

that's the issue - it's not :)

If you have information that doesn't really fit anywhere, you can always put it in the release annotation.

well, not just there. most entities (artists, labels et al) have annotation fields. those are meant to capture information that doesn't have a better place in the db.

(just facts, no copyrighted content)

i would have thought there would be a recording-recording relationship for live.

that sort of works for modern pop, but doesn't work well at all for e.g. jazz.

that is, what studio recording do you link to for a tune that's been covered hundreds or thousands of times?

got it

when works were implemented, it was a huge improvement

oh, pfft. jazz? The Beatles' 'Yesterday' is the most recorded song in history I guess?

actually my first thought was "dont call my music pop!"

is it odd that I put in edits and was pretty much instantly able to see them using a Python API?

if my edits were shit (which they're not!) they would have live right away

where did you see this? picard is written in python if that's what you mean.

some edits (usually ones which "add" information rather than "change" or "delete" information) show up instantly in the database

and are "undone" from the database if the edit gets voted down or canceled

other edits don't show up in the database until they've officially passed the voting period

thats what happened then.

thanks

oh, oops, I misunderstood. yeah, what he said ^

I could've sworn this legal name artist didn't exist https://beta.musicbrainz.org/artist/d29c21c5-8e...

(the legal name is https://beta.musicbrainz.org/artist/03ceaffc-ef...)

The editing history says the two were linked in 2005, but I could have sworn that it didn't exist earlier this year

Is there some kind of time delay between the beta and regular servers?

(on a side note) Should BMG Direct Marketing releases be marked as "Promotion"?

I'd lean toward no, as they're sold to consumers.

beta and production servers operate on the same database afaik, so there shouldn't be a delay.

hi

where can I find what 'joiletjake' describes here?: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/29951531#note-2995...

when using "Add Relationship" from the "Edit" tab of the recording, there's nothing like described…

ah, nvm… got it

I have to select "Work" in the 2nd drop-down first, then the available "Types" change

UI wise a bit counter-intuitive, but I got it now ;)

Leftmost: Those "consumers" are clubs, at least going by what Discogs has indicated.

As you can see the barcode number is gone, replaced with a second catalog number and an address.

hibiscuskazeneko, my house had BMG Direct Marketing years ago. I have a large number of their releases, and they were marketed directly to people's homes.

yeah, that was one of those album-of-the-month "clubs" wasn't it?

Yeah.

not a very exlcusive club to be in

No.

The idea was basically that they convinced you to sign up with a certain number of free CDs, then every month sent you a catalogue and a CD, which they charged you for. You could opt out of the CD by mailing something back to them.

Columbia House was the same principle and, in fact, later merged with BMG.

sure. why else would i have bought zz top's eliminator? thanks columbia house!

We were pretty good about opting out of the monthly CD, though we did get some... gems when we forgot.