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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Any Spanish speakers on? How do I sort "Trinidad Huerta y Caturla"?
      • (I can't find him in the database; if he's in there what name is he listed under?)
      • warp
        I guess Huerta is the paternal family name and Caturla maternal.
      • Clint
      • the spanish wikipedia page on orihuela calls him trinidad huertas caturla
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Also did I format this right? “Four Divertimentos, op. n.º1: “Andantino grazioso”
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      • I've been teetering on this for a while, but I'm getting to think we need a general "portrayed" relationship type. Tokusatsu shows, like anime, often have character song tie-ins, and we currently cannot link the actors to the characters they played (other than the imprecise "performs as" or "voice of" relationships). Any thoughts?
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      • cheezmo2
        I’m looking for some auto-editor or voter help to clean up a 124 track Blu-ray release. Specifically this edit http://musicbrainz.org/edit/29953201 I just spent 1/2 hour getting it all in and sorted after the edtir jumbled the track order and now realized one track is out of place. I don’t want to try to do the edit over again, it would be much to get it applied and then move the track.
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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        cheezmo2: Voted. :)
      • cheezmo2
        Thanks
      • chirlu`
        bitmap: You are in the editing history of that release, could you look into https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/29953201 ?
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      • ariscop
        did the site just get really slow for anyone else?
      • clearly it was waiting for me to comment
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      • cheezmo2
        I’ve added a scan of the spine so you can see I have the same catalog number. Were you able to look at the back cover track list?
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      • JESUS2099
        is anyone else disturbed that now when you write edit note then TAB then ENTER, you don’t submit the edit any more ? there is a new checkbox that stole the tabindex, there…
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      • xps2
        JESUS2099: jasrac work importer dind't work… (´;ω;`)
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      • JESUS2099
        xps2 hibiscus kazeneko… that work importer is more and more broken with each new MBS release… I guess I’m waiting for work page seeding feature now to fix it once and for all…… maybe
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      • xps2: i will test if work seeding now works or not, thanks for the interest in that importer :)
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      • xps2
        JESUS2099: I really appreciate all of your script. :)
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      • cheezmo2
        Still looking for some vote help for edit http://musicbrainz.org/edit/29953201 there is some discussion now. Would like to get it in so I can do a follow on to fix up the track order (munged by the track parser) after it is applied.
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      • Thanks for everyone that helped vote for http://musicbrainz.org/edit/29953201 I’ve done the two track order fixes so this edit should finish it… http://musicbrainz.org/edit/29959703
      • ZaphodBeeblebrox would have suspected traps
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      • KRSCuan
        ZaphodBeeblebrox: Wrong channel?
      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        .. no?
      • [20:26] <kepstin-laptop> only the one guy, the other characters are girls
      • KRSCuan
        Okay, that must have been hours ago.
      • cheezmo2
        Thanks again everyone for help with Drums & Wires CD+blu-ray, I have one more edit. the last edit mysteriously dropped 2 tracks and I found a couple of typos. http://musicbrainz.org/edit/29960624 After that one I should be able to finish up adding track times and put this one to bed.
      • hawke
        reosarevok: regarding classical track style: is it still recommended to create multiple releases/tracklists, with one language per tracklist?
      • reosarevok
        Did anyone ever do that?
      • warp
        if a classical release has multiple languages for each track on the cover, I think we used to not allow that in MB,... so you'd have to pick one for the entry in MB. if you wanted whatever the other language was, you'd have to add that separately.
      • (though I guess that isn't/wasn't specific to classical really)
      • reosarevok
        Yes, it's possible, I just wonder if it was ever recommended (or actually done, in general)
      • Mineo has only ever entered the german tracklists because that's his native language :P
      • KRSCuan
        warp: Don't see how that is much different from what we do with pseudo-releases.
      • I.e. why not allow that.
      • Then again, we should really implement alternate track lists and get rid of pseudos.
      • reosarevok
        Yeah :(
      • warp
        KRSCuan: yes, it's exactly the same as pseudo-releases.
      • hawke
        warp: Except that they are considered official.
      • but yeah.
      • I know that is, or was the official method, not that anyone bothered for the most part.
      • KRSCuan
        Some Japanese releases (especially of foreign albums) also have both Japanese and Latin official tracklists.
      • kepstin-laptop
        alternate tracklists are insufficient, because we also want to localize the release title and release artist credit
      • KRSCuan
        That would make it much harder to implement and potentially lead to UI issues though.
      • warp nods at kepstin-laptop
      • hawke
        kepstin-laptop: Alternate tracklists would be a decent start though. :-/
      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm, but that makes figuring out how to do localized titles/release artist credits more complicated at a later point - are they linked to the tracklists somehow? completely separate?
      • to be honest, the pseudo-releases give us the necessary db structure allready, and some editor and ui enhancements could make it work together, if we want to go that way.
      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I'd be fine with storing them as full (pseudo-)releases
      • As long as we don't show them around and offer them in the ws and stuff
      • But dunno
      • kepstin-laptop had plans to add pseudo-release stuff to mbjs at some point; he has some ideas for presentation that he wanted to try out
      • kepstin-laptop
        the localized releases should be available to the webservice somehow, of course...
      • hawke
        kepstin-laptop: Problem is with software support though — we need to somehow make sure that correct catno information can be pulled in from the pseudo-releases.
      • kepstin-laptop
        yeah :/
      • hawke
        Picard is a long way from that, and I’m sure you can’t even get the info from the webservice.
      • reosarevok
        Well
      • kepstin-laptop
        in mbjs, I plan to - on the page for the main release - have e.g. a tabbed section that switches between the tracklists/titles from the linked translated/transliterated pseudo-releases
      • and then not show pseudo-releases on their own
      • reosarevok
        I guess they would be more connected to the releases than they are now
      • kepstin-laptop
        for the translated/transliterated ones, there should be ARs connecting them...
      • reosarevok
        (as in, I guess you'd query for the actual release, not the pseudo, and then it'd give you a list of possible tracklists)
      • kepstin-laptop
        searching gets complicated, tho; you'd want a search for the localized title to return the original release, for example
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      • CallerNo6
        reosarevok: played with the formatting @ http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Caller_number_...
      • reosarevok
        CallerNo6: I do like that it makes what I meant more obvious
      • CallerNo6
        okay, maybe I'm the only one who likes calling it "the distributive property" :-)
      • reosarevok
        haha
      • I think so :p
      • CallerNo6
        I also snuck in a parenthetical, "marked (with e.g. a header) as part of a full work"
      • oh, and a copy-paste error, the opus number is not on the "as on cover" example :-/
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        hah bitmap you approved it beforei ha a chance o vote:D
      • bitmap
        oops XD