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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        I'd check elsewhere to see how they write their name
      • derwin
        could I understand your case a little better, HibiscusKazeneko ? why are japanese special?
      • hawke_ is out again, for real this time. :-D
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        it's not just Japanese; most Asian releases take extensive creative license with Latin script
      • we have to respect it
      • we're not allowed to take creative license with Asian scripts as it's seen as racist
      • derwin
        how is it different from russian release with inline latin?
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        not by much
      • derwin
        is russian "asian" in your formulation?
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        depends on the region
      • derwin
        or heck, swedish, as swedish does not use "latin" script?
      • no o-with-dots in latin script, is there?
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        that's "Accented Latin" according to Unicode, but I suppose it counts as Latin
      • There are Western artists who have abused such characters
      • e.g. Mōtley Crøue
      • Crüe
      • derwin
        word
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        we do have to be extra mindful in the case of artists who use unusual characters
      • I was just looking at one called GL▲SS †33†H
      • mki_
        The band "Dixie Dregs" had the name "The Dregs" for some albums. Should this be two different artists on MusicBrainz?
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        It depends
      • mki_
        on what?
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        do they have any composition or performance credits under one or both names?
      • I'd only keep them separate if there were
      • derwin
        HibiscusKazeneko ///▲▲▲\\\
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        yep, them too
      • mki_
        Wikipedia: "For Unsung Heroes, released in 1981, the band changed their name to The Dregs in an effort to gain more commercial appeal"
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        did they have any relationship-type credits before the name change?
      • if not, I'd say it's safe to merge
      • mki_
        I guess my english is not good enough: What exactly is a "relationship-type credit"?
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        derwin: Is there even a way to pronounce that artist's name?
      • like "producer", performing vocals or instruments, etc.
      • I was tempted to make a ticket to add a Name Change relationship type for artists
      • CallerNo6
        "racist"? where did that come from?
      • mki_
        I mean, they had several official albums as "Dixie Dregs". Then they released some as "The Dregs" and later they changed it back to "Dixie dregs"
      • HibiscusKazeneko
      • remember when they tried to force Fox to reshoot the pilot episode of Dads?
      • derwin
        http://www.last.fm/music/%E2%96%B2%E2%83%9D+%E2... - ▲⃝ ▲⃝ ▲⃝ (Pronounced as “Bitches On My Dick”)
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        these people are not to be messed with
      • derwin
        http://www.last.fm/music/%E2%96%BC%E2%96%A1%E2%... - ▼□■□■□■ (Pronounced: Mourning Star)
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        you wouldn't intentionally correct an artist's grammar on a hip-hop release, would you?
      • that would be considered racist
      • CallerNo6
        that's /not/ why we don't correct grammar.
      • mki_
        HibiscusKazenko: So two separate artists, right?
      • CallerNo6 doesn't find anything about capitalization on the manaa.org link either :-)
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        if "The Dregs" was ever used for anything other than artist credits on a release
      • CallerNo6: The entire Asian-American community will be on our ass
      • that's the point I was trying to make
      • CallerNo6
        I find that very hard to believe.
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        just you wait
      • remember the Wong Bros. Laundry Service T-shirt?
      • CallerNo6
        but that has nothing to do with the decisions MB has made
      • (whether some advocacy group would be angry, I don't know)
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        a very powerful advocacy group at that
      • if we were to grammar-correct every hip-hop release we had listed, the NAACP would sue us for racism
      • we have to be mindful of other cultures' use of language
      • CallerNo6
        Even if that happens, I'm sure it's not why MB handles hip-hop titles the way it does
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        it's something called "artist intent"
      • the artists intended to use so-called "ghetto" or "Ebonics" language
      • we have to respect that
      • a lot of hip-hop artists are otherwise intelligent, educated people
      • they just play up the act for the attention
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      • CallerNo6
        they're performing artists. they do /everything/ for attention :-)
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        nobody wants to hear someone rapping in perfect English about chemistry or politics or whatever
      • people want to hear about the everyday struggles in the 'Hood
      • CallerNo6
        now /that/ makes me think you've never heard MC Hawking
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        he's an anomaly
      • CallerNo6
        fair enough.
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        nerdcore isn't the same as mainstream hip-hop
      • I have heard some rappers like MC Hawking and Professor Elemental
      • but they're not the types that you'd see on TV
      • the mainstream media pays more attention to rappers like 2 Chainz and Lil Wayne
      • CallerNo6
        the mainstream media is mostly in charge of making sure you remain anxious to the point of paranoia
      • but that doesn't mean that MB policy has anything to do with threats from advocacy groups
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        I don't even get most of my news from them
      • CallerNo6
        unfortunately, all the news I'm aware of still comes from humans
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        as opposed to donkeys?
      • CallerNo6
        I was hoping for time travelling aliens, but I'd settle for donkeys.
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        I don't think The Doctor has sunk that low
      • though given how Moffat has been treating the series, I wouldn't be surprised if he did end up a reporter
      • CallerNo6
        or a propagandist?
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        that too
      • there's not much of a line anymore
      • CallerNo6
        that's why I have high hopes for Peter Capaldi
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        me too
      • it would be funny if he channeled Malcolm Tucker
      • CallerNo6
        totally
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        "how the fuck to you fly this fucking thing?"
      • "Suck my dick, Daleks"
      • CallerNo6
        one can dream
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        yep
      • CallerNo6
        oh, if only
      • Batman could have used a little more Patrick Bateman too.
      • (no edit needed)
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        I assume the track in that video is from the Batman Begins soundtrack?
      • (or one of it sequels?)
      • CallerNo6
        I don't think it's an edit. I think it's straight from American Psycho. Could be wrong. Haven't seen it in a long time.
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        I never have
      • I hear it was banned in a few areas
      • or at least the book was
      • I remember the parody Huey Lewis and Weird Al did of one scene
      • CallerNo6
        ah, right. heuy lewis plays in the scene being parodied.
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        did you notice the "New Drug" he takes?
      • fact: I have the album "Fore!" on LP
      • I found it in my dad's collection
      • CallerNo6
        oh, crap, I was supposed to be watching carefully?
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        no
      • you can if you want
      • I could have sworn I saw American Psycho listed on Netflix
      • trying to decide whether I should watch it or paint my nails
      • or both
      • CallerNo6
        it's kind of unsettling, depending on what you're into
      • HibiscusKazeneko
        I'll watch most anything
      • if I could get my hands on the Guinea Pig films, I'd watch them
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      • SultS
        who to credit to? http://www.amazon.com/The-Songs-Josh-Groban-Som... (see cover art)
      • [unknown] seems valid based on back cover
      • nikki
        judging by the back, it's not unknown, it's by pocket songs, but some people will object because it's a company
      • SultS
        never heard of them
      • I already put [unknown], but maybe it’s worth to change it
      • nikki
        I wish we had a better way to handle things like that :/
      • SultS
        that “artist” in not in db and I couldn’t even find any release credits for them
      • would karaoke version for someone elses performance of a “O Holy Night” make it also a cover of that work? :P
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      • PeepoUK
        Is there a problem with adding cover art at the moment? http://musicbrainz.org/release/c7502cf1-d2ed-4e...
      • I cancelled the edits and tried again and got the same thing.
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      • nikki
        the uploads are (probably) fine. for some reason the IA is having a bit of a delay processing that one
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      • PeepoUK
        Thanks nikki. I shall continue and cross my fingers :P
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