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HibiscusKazeneko
I'd check elsewhere to see how they write their name
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derwin
could I understand your case a little better, HibiscusKazeneko ? why are japanese special?
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hawke_ is out again, for real this time. :-D
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HibiscusKazeneko
it's not just Japanese; most Asian releases take extensive creative license with Latin script
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we have to respect it
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we're not allowed to take creative license with Asian scripts as it's seen as racist
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derwin
how is it different from russian release with inline latin?
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HibiscusKazeneko
not by much
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derwin
is russian "asian" in your formulation?
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HibiscusKazeneko
depends on the region
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derwin
or heck, swedish, as swedish does not use "latin" script?
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no o-with-dots in latin script, is there?
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HibiscusKazeneko
that's "Accented Latin" according to Unicode, but I suppose it counts as Latin
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There are Western artists who have abused such characters
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e.g. Mōtley Crøue
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Crüe
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derwin
word
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HibiscusKazeneko
we do have to be extra mindful in the case of artists who use unusual characters
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I was just looking at one called GL▲SS †33†H
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mki_
The band "Dixie Dregs" had the name "The Dregs" for some albums. Should this be two different artists on MusicBrainz?
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HibiscusKazeneko
It depends
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mki_
on what?
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HibiscusKazeneko
do they have any composition or performance credits under one or both names?
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I'd only keep them separate if there were
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derwin
HibiscusKazeneko ///▲▲▲\\\
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HibiscusKazeneko
yep, them too
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mki_
Wikipedia: "For Unsung Heroes, released in 1981, the band changed their name to The Dregs in an effort to gain more commercial appeal"
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HibiscusKazeneko
did they have any relationship-type credits before the name change?
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if not, I'd say it's safe to merge
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mki_
I guess my english is not good enough: What exactly is a "relationship-type credit"?
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HibiscusKazeneko
derwin: Is there even a way to pronounce that artist's name?
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like "producer", performing vocals or instruments, etc.
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I was tempted to make a ticket to add a Name Change relationship type for artists
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CallerNo6
"racist"? where did that come from?
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mki_
I mean, they had several official albums as "Dixie Dregs". Then they released some as "The Dregs" and later they changed it back to "Dixie dregs"
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HibiscusKazeneko
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remember when they tried to force Fox to reshoot the pilot episode of Dads?
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derwin
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HibiscusKazeneko
these people are not to be messed with
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derwin
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HibiscusKazeneko
you wouldn't intentionally correct an artist's grammar on a hip-hop release, would you?
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that would be considered racist
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CallerNo6
that's /not/ why we don't correct grammar.
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mki_
HibiscusKazenko: So two separate artists, right?
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CallerNo6 doesn't find anything about capitalization on the manaa.org link either :-)
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HibiscusKazeneko
if "The Dregs" was ever used for anything other than artist credits on a release
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CallerNo6: The entire Asian-American community will be on our ass
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that's the point I was trying to make
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CallerNo6
I find that very hard to believe.
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HibiscusKazeneko
just you wait
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remember the Wong Bros. Laundry Service T-shirt?
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CallerNo6
but that has nothing to do with the decisions MB has made
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(whether some advocacy group would be angry, I don't know)
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HibiscusKazeneko
a very powerful advocacy group at that
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if we were to grammar-correct every hip-hop release we had listed, the NAACP would sue us for racism
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we have to be mindful of other cultures' use of language
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CallerNo6
Even if that happens, I'm sure it's not why MB handles hip-hop titles the way it does
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HibiscusKazeneko
it's something called "artist intent"
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the artists intended to use so-called "ghetto" or "Ebonics" language
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we have to respect that
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a lot of hip-hop artists are otherwise intelligent, educated people
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they just play up the act for the attention
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CallerNo6
they're performing artists. they do /everything/ for attention :-)
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HibiscusKazeneko
nobody wants to hear someone rapping in perfect English about chemistry or politics or whatever
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people want to hear about the everyday struggles in the 'Hood
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CallerNo6
now /that/ makes me think you've never heard MC Hawking
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HibiscusKazeneko
he's an anomaly
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CallerNo6
fair enough.
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HibiscusKazeneko
nerdcore isn't the same as mainstream hip-hop
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I have heard some rappers like MC Hawking and Professor Elemental
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but they're not the types that you'd see on TV
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the mainstream media pays more attention to rappers like 2 Chainz and Lil Wayne
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CallerNo6
the mainstream media is mostly in charge of making sure you remain anxious to the point of paranoia
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but that doesn't mean that MB policy has anything to do with threats from advocacy groups
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HibiscusKazeneko
I don't even get most of my news from them
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CallerNo6
unfortunately, all the news I'm aware of still comes from humans
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HibiscusKazeneko
as opposed to donkeys?
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CallerNo6
I was hoping for time travelling aliens, but I'd settle for donkeys.
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HibiscusKazeneko
I don't think The Doctor has sunk that low
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though given how Moffat has been treating the series, I wouldn't be surprised if he did end up a reporter
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CallerNo6
or a propagandist?
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HibiscusKazeneko
that too
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there's not much of a line anymore
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CallerNo6
that's why I have high hopes for Peter Capaldi
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HibiscusKazeneko
me too
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it would be funny if he channeled Malcolm Tucker
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CallerNo6
totally
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HibiscusKazeneko
"how the fuck to you fly this fucking thing?"
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"Suck my dick, Daleks"
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CallerNo6
one can dream
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HibiscusKazeneko
yep
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CallerNo6
oh, if only
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Batman could have used a little more Patrick Bateman too.
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(no edit needed)
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HibiscusKazeneko
I assume the track in that video is from the Batman Begins soundtrack?
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(or one of it sequels?)
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CallerNo6
I don't think it's an edit. I think it's straight from American Psycho. Could be wrong. Haven't seen it in a long time.
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HibiscusKazeneko
I never have
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I hear it was banned in a few areas
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or at least the book was
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I remember the parody Huey Lewis and Weird Al did of one scene
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CallerNo6
ah, right. heuy lewis plays in the scene being parodied.
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HibiscusKazeneko
did you notice the "New Drug" he takes?
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fact: I have the album "Fore!" on LP
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I found it in my dad's collection
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CallerNo6
oh, crap, I was supposed to be watching carefully?
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HibiscusKazeneko
no
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you can if you want
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I could have sworn I saw American Psycho listed on Netflix
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trying to decide whether I should watch it or paint my nails
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or both
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CallerNo6
it's kind of unsettling, depending on what you're into
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HibiscusKazeneko
I'll watch most anything
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if I could get my hands on the Guinea Pig films, I'd watch them
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SultS
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[unknown] seems valid based on back cover
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nikki
judging by the back, it's not unknown, it's by pocket songs, but some people will object because it's a company
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SultS
never heard of them
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I already put [unknown], but maybe it’s worth to change it
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nikki
I wish we had a better way to handle things like that :/
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SultS
that “artist” in not in db and I couldn’t even find any release credits for them
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would karaoke version for someone elses performance of a “O Holy Night” make it also a cover of that work? :P
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PeepoUK
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I cancelled the edits and tried again and got the same thing.
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nikki
the uploads are (probably) fine. for some reason the IA is having a bit of a delay processing that one
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PeepoUK
Thanks nikki. I shall continue and cross my fingers :P
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