#musicbrainz

/

      • kepstin-laptop__
        they are usually a bit lazier on singles tho
      • kepstin-laptop__ has a lot of jpop stuff with only composer/lyricist/arranger/vocalist
      • Freso
        Nyanko-sensei: Man. I hate when they just credit the group. :|
      • I also really dislike when say "Barfoo played 10 different instruments throughout the album" without specifying which instruments they played on which tracks.
      • Ugh.
      • nikki
        I hate it when I can't find the credits online and I have to dig out my magnifying glass to read all the tiny kanji
      • Nyanko-sensei
        kepstin-laptop__: that's the usual thing, then there's a page like this http://puu.sh/6kIv8.jpg
      • nikki
        then draw them one by one...
      • Freso
        nikki: I rarely have that problem. :p
      • Nyanko-sensei
        I do the same unless there's a helpful wiki which I can use to copy the names
      • nikki
        on account of you not editing stuff with kanji? :P
      • Freso
        Precisement. :)
      • Nyanko-sensei
        my indies bands credits are boring most of the time
      • Freso
        I do however dislike when the library's put their chip sticker blatantly across liner notes.
      • I mean, why do you think I'm taking the CDs out? To *listen* to them?? Jeez.
      • Nyanko-sensei
        and I should make a habit of at least taking pictures of the booklets of the CDs I get
      • Nyanko-sensei might have to dig through his mountain of CDs soon
      • I should add a completely credited album one of these days, just to see the monstrosity of inline credits on a j-pop album
      • kepstin-laptop__
        I've been working on a few; my best one so far is only about halfway done :/
      • kepstin-laptop__ likes track 3 ;)
      • Nyanko-sensei
        I'm sorting my collection while adding stuff to MB, so I'm adding lyricist/composer/arranger credits mostly
      • kepstin-laptop__
        hmm. that track has both 'background vocals and lead vocals' and 'lead vocals' for the same person
      • Nyanko-sensei
        oh wow
      • kepstin-laptop__
        as you can see, I haven't yet done tracks 10-12 :/
      • Nyanko-sensei
        yeah... that's also a 2CD album
      • kepstin-laptop__
        second cd is all live stuff and doesn't have full credits
      • Nyanko-sensei
        and a Maaya Sakamoto, a.k.a. a lot of people worked on each song
      • I have a couple of her CDs, mostly anison, they have full pages of credits for just 2 songs
      • kepstin-laptop__
        yeah
      • kepstin-laptop__ has spent more money than he should have one some of her singles ;)
      • Nyanko-sensei
        I'm hunting for rare CDs on amazon and auctions
      • visual kei bands are short lived. good ones live even shorter than usual
      • kepstin-laptop__ notes that he has the genoen north americal releases of hotchpotch and nicopachi.
      • oh
      • geneon released those in US?
      • kepstin-laptop__
        yep
      • jesus2099 joined the channel
      • jesus2099
        hi Freso : imo crediting band instead of people is modesty + sharing same royalties… it’s rather cool attitude imo
      • kepstin-laptop__
      • jesus2099
        not lazyness
      • Nyanko-sensei
        meanwhile, tsutaya sent me a postcard to come and rent more CDs
      • kepstin-laptop__ is tempted to return some of the mail response cards from cds he's bought, postmarked in canada ;)
      • kepstin-laptop__
        and also http://musicbrainz.org/release/74729a4a-a08f-47... for geneon's hotchpotch release.
      • jesus2099
        i always feel i should throw those enquetes to the bin
      • Nyanko-sensei
        I need to find a scanner that can scan without moire
      • kepstin-laptop__
        there is no such thing
      • jesus2099
        deactivate all post processing
      • kepstin-laptop__
        you scan at high enough resolution, turn off post-processing in the driver, and then manually process
      • jesus2099
        it should look OK at 100%
      • kepstin-laptop__
        (high enough being >=300dpi for most stuff)
      • Nyanko-sensei
        any suggestions on good scanners?
      • ruaok joined the channel
      • kepstin-laptop__ has a really nice epson scanner
      • kepstin-laptop__
        hp all-in-ones are horrible
      • look for scanners which claim to be able to scan 3d objects; they have much better optics
      • nikki
        and can do digipak trays?
      • kepstin-laptop__
        and can do digipak trays, yes :)
      • nikki
        mine can't :/
      • kepstin-laptop__
      • jesus2099
        aren’t there only good scanners now ?
      • kepstin-laptop__
        no, the cheap ones are really horrible
      • jesus2099
        i have an old first price canon (without power cable, only usb) slim works ok
      • Freso
        jesus2099: Sure. I get that. I agree and approve of that. But for the purpose of being specific in the database, it's still annoying.
      • jesus2099
        Freso:  :)
      • jesus2099 got to go…
      • Nyanko-sensei
        http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B000VJ2D9Q/?tag=.p-22 <-- how overkill is this one? XD
      • can scan on both sides
      • kepstin-laptop__ has an epson Perfection V330 Photo - the Perfection V33 and GT-F730 and GT-S630 all use the same scanner bed
      • http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B009LRLN9U/ <-- this one is really popular. and quite cheap
      • Krystof
        some time ago I talked about doing some research on musicbrainz data
      • I'm based at a UK university. Does that get me any extra access to anything beyond the downloads linked from http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Database ?
      • reosarevok
        Krystof: talk to ruaok but you should be able to get a free live data feed
      • Dunno what else you need but you can ask him :)
      • Krystof
        tasty tasty user data :-)
      • but maybe we get that anyway
      • kepstin-laptop__
        Nyanko-sensei: with any luck that's just a newer version of the GT-S630
      • hawke joined the channel
      • reosarevok
        Krystof: a fair amount of user data is private, but if you ask you can certainly get at least stats
      • Nyanko-sensei
        I think I'll get one. worst case scenario - I'll drag it to my parents' place next time I'm in europe
      • isn't MB userdata boring? only editors there
      • reosarevok
        Not if you're an academic :)
      • Krystof
        not if you're investigating the community structure of engaged users across music-related social networks
      • that might be a longer way of saying the same thing
      • reosarevok
        hahaha
      • kepstin-laptop__
        Nyanko-sensei: looks like they discontinued the model I have (which is the north american version of the GT-F730), and the GT-F740/S640 is the replacement :)
      • Nyanko-sensei
        dunno what to study there. how much I'm overestimating my command of a language I set in my profile?
      • oh cool
      • \amazon prime/
      • this weekend I'll have some fun scanning my booklets
      • santiissopasse joined the channel
      • ordered. and now I go to sleep
      • nikki
        so decisive...
      • night199uk joined the channel
      • kepstin-laptop__
        huh, the US name of the GT-S640 is the "Perfection V37"
      • makes perfect sense given that the GT-S630 was the "Perfection V33"
      • simukis_ joined the channel
      • I'm pretty sure that the only difference between the GT-S630 and GT-S640 is that they added a "Scan-to-cloud" feature to the software.
      • CallerNo6 joined the channel
      • Freso
      • night199uk joined the channel
      • CallerNo6 plays a game with his nephew called "I have no idea." The goal is to say "I have no idea" whenever somebody asks you something that you don't know about. At 8, he's already pretty bad at it, the little hipster.
      • reosarevok
        hahaha
      • Hadora_ joined the channel
      • Mineo spots some live recordings added by reosarevok with a place in their comment but no relationship <.<
      • Newly added?
      • Maybe I forgot
      • Mineo
        yeah - I guess you didn't add them because there's no nice relationship editor for standalones :)
      • reosarevok
        No, I always add it for standalones
      • I probably just forgot
      • Links?
      • Mineo
        oh, wait, I'm stupid. the relationships are there, but I didn't see them because I was looking at the englisch mb.org, not the german beta :/
      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • Mineo stops reading stuff for university because he clearly can't think straight anymore
      • smgoller joined the channel
      • voiceinsideyou1 joined the channel
      • voiceinsideyou joined the channel
      • hawke1 joined the channel
      • hidgw joined the channel
      • hawke1 joined the channel
      • djinni` joined the channel
      • jcazevedo joined the channel
      • CallerNo6 , after reading https://meta.discourse.org/t/shouldnt-you-be-able-to-tag-with-multiple-categories/256 , marvels at the tag-haters. Of course tags don't work well as categories. That's what's so awesome about tags.
      • CallerNo6
        Also, a good forum alternative for MB would ideally /also/ replace the blog IMO.
      • reosarevok
        Ugh, why?
      • That's pretty much the only place for official stuff we have
      • nikki
        the blog isn't really any different from a forum. someone posts something, people post replies. how exactly it's set up is largely technical details :P
      • reosarevok
        Technically no
      • But it's good that official communication is in one place, and random chatter in another
      • The less similar they look, the better :p
      • nikki
        I guess we just have to disagree then :P
      • reosarevok
        Also it's not that similar
      • The blog is pretty much designed so that the content is the important bit and the comments are secondary reactions, and is styled as such
      • While the forum is supposed to be more of an equal-footing thingy
      • Which is great for a forum, but not for, well, a blog :p
      • nikki
        I didn't say all the posts should be presented in the same way
      • reosarevok
        Well, I mean, if you have a different URL for it and a different design and layout, that doesn't look like a forum, then why not
      • Although you might as well use a blog then
      • reosarevok shrugs
      • After all that's the only bit we don't have to self-host at the moment
      • nikki
        you're the one saying it has to have a different url, different design and a layout that doesn't look like a forum :P
      • reosarevok
        Well that's what I understand with "not presented in the same way" :p
      • If it looks like a forum, it's pretty much the same way :p
      • CallerNo6
        I dunno. Maybe I'm missing something, but to me the multipe-channels-of-communication are a drag.
      • reosarevok
        CallerNo6: it's just that I don't see the forum as a channel of outwards communication from MB, but a place for users to do their user-y thingies
      • nikki
        the blog is where you go to post stuff that users are unlikely to see, yes :P
      • but I'm not sure that was the intention
      • CallerNo6
        A lot of forums do that with a "news" section or something similar, don't htye?
      • hawke1
        CallerNo6: yes, and it mostly sucks.
      • reosarevok
        Maybe, but that's a news section *for the forum users*