#musicbrainz

then again, if you believe in string theory..techically all our instruments would be string instruments

heh

Well, that's what you get from it being under Piano, which obviously is a string instrument

But yeah, possibly should be moved :)

CallerNo6: "inverse propertionate" = "omvendt proportionel" (in Danish)

Freso: that was CatQuest, wasn’t it?

Freso: Since you mention Danish: Do you know anything about the danish High Fidelity magazine/reference CDs?

å ja, omvent proposjonal, jeg er ikke veldig good på proposjonalitet :(

wish me luck making quesedilla!

hawke: I'd say release groups

kepstin-laptop: that was kind of my thought as well, that's why I did it that way…but it feels weird to go to the release group page for each entry in the series.

well, that's mostly because our release group pages aren't great, particularly for when there's only one release

yah, that may be.

I’m just not sure how it might be improved.

can't imagine anything better so that makes it OK.

it would be nice if the release group page showed at least partial release information from a representitive release, imo

bleh, why is "piano quartet" not four pianos? Silly.

it's not? oh man, all my dreams are shattered.

would need a pretty big room or pretty small pianos to do such a quartet tho :/

There are some works like that, it’s just called “…for four pianos” not “piano quartet”

I think I've also seen "for two piano-four-hands"

yep, that’s another thing.

they should include a head count as well

'for two piano-four-hands-three-heads" is entirely different from "for two piano-four-hands-two-heads"

pieces written for conjoined twins?

or two one-handed people.

totally different thing, not to be conflated

Is the AR "copyrighted by" used to represent the label with a © ?

or is it licensor...

yes.

what the use of licensor ?

© = “copyrighted by” and Ⓟ = “phonographic copyright by”

licensor is generally a statement like “music licensed from [other label]”

ah I see

thanks

(or it might just be a few tracks)

hmm. do most of you understand a style "+1" to mean "yes, I like the basic idea" or "yes, this is done and needs no tweaking"? Or probably something in between, since I don't see people retracting their +1s during the tweaking phase.

I think a "+1" means this proposal in its current form is good enough to pass

(so, it may be improved by tweaking, but wouldn't be veto'd without tweaking)

Me too, but I suspect not everybody does.

Sometimes it might be "yes, we need this badly, I don't even care about the details" I guess.

I understand it like in Jira when you vote

you +1

Right, a lot of people seem to use it that way. Technically, only the first +1 matters (it allows the proposal to move to rfv). In practice, it's nice to see the level or support a proposal has.

chirlu`: "I might write a redirect-following bot one day." - we already have one though.

It's called "nikki".

:p

Oh, drsaunders already mentioned her. :p

Yes, jesus2099 said so.

(?)

Ah, I was right. ;-)

hawke: I don't, no.

Freso: k, no worries. I was just wondering if it was discontinued or what, since the last CD we have in the database is #74 from 2003. I can’t find much about it on the web.

CallerNo6: Re: "+1", what warp said.

hawke: The name of the magazine doesn't even ring a bell for me. :/

CallerNo6: Well, "only the +1 matters" in as so far as 20 people don't chime in with "-1".

Freso: All I can find is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fidelity_(di... which links to a non-existent wiki article and http://www.discogs.com/label/210050-High-Fideli... which says very little

Since that would suggest the proposal being rather far from a consensus.

(On that note though, I've sometimes not sent a +1 mail if someone else has already done it, and no one's argued against it.)

per the style process, "-1" means nothing — you just need a "+1" to proceed to RFV

a bunch of people saying -1 ar RFC stage is a good sign your RFV won't succeed, tho :)

yeah

I try to avoid saying “-1” in favor of “I think this is a bad idea because xyz”

even at the RFV stage, our guidelines say that a -1/veto with no good supporting reason can be ignored at the style leader's discretion...

*style leaders'

(There are two. :))

ah, I forgot we have more than 1 now :)

well, maybe some need to be CGed in? (like doctor who)

it doesn't help that one of the style leaders has a mysterious ability to not show up in photos.

worst case, it'll need to be a radio drama

sorry, "audio/broadcast/serial drama"?

hahaha

kepstin-laptop: And another style leader has more-or-less been proclaimed a "persona non grata"...

hi! could anyone, please, tell me why can't i import data from the musicbrainz database using mp3tag? i have "service unavailable (503)" error. was it made intentionally or should i just wait?

brown_fox: How does mp3tag work? How many times have you tried over how long of a time period?

Freso: well i'm trying a couple of days so far.

Then I guess it's a matter of the 2nd question.

Eh.

1st question.

Freso: and i just assume that mp3tag makes a query to the site and downloads data that matches.

Freso: well it's not a big deal anyway. mp3tag has some options. i just like musicbrainz's approach of tagging :-)

"makes a query" - sure, but what query? And is it just one, or several? If the latter, does it respect the throttling?

Freso: for instance: i have Sheryl Crow's album titled C'mon C'mon. i want to tag the songs and i push a button on mp3tag's interface. i enter c'mon c'mon in the "search by album" field and after a while i have the aforesaid error. but it used to work fine.

brown_fox: Sure. I'm not so much interested in how it works from a user interface perspective - more how it works from a code perspective.

Freso: what, is this #musicbrainz-devel or something? ;-)

Freso: i see. But you're asking a wrong guy. But i assume i need to sniff the data exchange.

hawke: Half the time it is, yes. :p

Freso: anyway. Thank you for your attention.

Mineo: i'll try...

brown_fox: Or look at the source. Like I said, I don't know anything about "mp3tag". I don't think I've ever heard about it before. So it's hard to tell exactly what's up with it.

Mineo: problem solved. Thank you! :-)

I guess i need to escape them somehow.

no problem

I'd actually expect mp3tag to escape those automatically

You know what's weird? If i type wildflower -- then everything does work. In case of cmon cmon -- i have this ugly error. I think there is some bug in the mp3tag software

May be this phrase is a spell? :-)

But, from the other hand, if i query another db then everything works.

brown_fox: it's a bug in mp3tag, yes.

other dbs may not have the same restrictions or syntax

Okay. I'm not going to waste your time anymore. Thank you for your patience. And have a nice whatever you have! :-)

hawke: thank you!

wow, mp3tag is still using ws/1

I actually miss the "Relate to..." function. Was useful for adding a single relationship without loading the full edit page. :/

fucking awesome

oops wrong channel

no it's not

Freso: only problem is that it still loaded a new page so it wasn't that useful in that regard. Of course the new page that it loaded was faster than the current one, so…

If 'relate to...' did a popup like the relationship editor does and then applied it immediately, that would be better.

HUD