#musicbrainz

Added Yalta and changed that bit

thanks

jesus2099: Au contraire. It adds new possibilities. :) I told you about it when I was updating murdos' importer scripts to use the feature.

hahaha, awesome

As I just read: "Now you can improve your pet/livestock's safety, create pretty patterns, and FREAK PEOPLE THE FUCK OUT"

haha awesome

pity I have nothing furry to take out at night

any musicbrainz vm masters here?

now that the index is done i got to serverip:8080

Problem accessing /search. Reason:

Index is currently not available for resource type RECORDING

ruaok: ^ any idea?

yeah, its some odd issue with virtual box that no one has ever bothered to debug or fix.

if you can use vmware fusion, that one works better.

: [ i converted the tmg to work on kvm

*img

am i better off to try and build one from scratch?

depends on how much you like pain.

haha, the vm has given me lots of pain so far ;p

then building one from scratch is going to make that pain pale in comparison

just pains me google isnt the fix all. not enough pro's setup the vm i guess

okay new question here :)

So I have a release with a song called "Mratschnoje Woskresenje (Gloomy Sunday)", with music composer set to "Rezsô Seress".

here: https://musicbrainz.org/release/94b705d1-99d7-4... track#6, "Gloomy Sunday" by Seress Rezsô. Must be the same work.

on wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rezs%C5%91_Seress, "His most famous composition is Szomorú Vasárnap ("Gloomy Sunday")"

So I guess the work has to be named "Szomorú Vasárnap" (hungarian?), "Mratschnoje Woskresenje" certainly being a russian transaltion transliterated in latin script.

(the release is from a russian artist)

(released in germany)

Now, if all of this is right, how do I keep track of everything in musicbrainz? only with edit comments?

works can have aliases, so if there are multiple titles, you can just add the others as aliases

tanks, I didn't notice that.

and if a lyrics have been translated, it's not the same work anymore, right?

Indeed

right

thanks

"The legend behind this song is that if you listen to it, then you will soon after commit suicide." not sure I want to work on this anymore.

hahaha

"recorded 1931 in London" <- I guess that's a relationship between a recording and an area?

yes

the date going in "begin date"?

Both

They started and finished recording it in 1931 :)

right

well f**k

I didn't notice but the work already exists…

heh

Well merge it :)

the guy who wrote the music for the "suicide song" died on my birthday.

is that a sign?

haha

Hope not :p

what's the difference between "later translated", "versions", "later version" here: https://musicbrainz.org/work/91ab3532-910e-3171...

hum there are songs and works… I thought they were the same thing.

"Song" is a type of work

(so is, say, "Symphony" or whatever)

"later translated versions" is one thing in two lines :)

So, basically, you want to mark the "translated" attribute, if your work is a translation

ok so the last one (russian translation) must go in there

(and set the lyrics language to Russian)

done

it's endless

If someone don't know what to do for the next three days, I think that https://musicbrainz.org/work/659e5ff5-4045-3453... is a mess.

Hi

why isn't there 'scat' in the list of vocal performances?

fecal freak

?

I'm referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scat_singing

because nobody's proposed it, probably

where is the proposal form? ^^

it's described in https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposals

Schisma______: probably for the same reason there's no rap

nobody's actually proposed scat, as far as I can tell, at least

dito

What is rap? :p

I'd also like chorus too, but I've pretty much resigned myself to just tagging hundreds of recordings

(is dancehall rap vocals? is grime rap vocals?)

what is a mini-album ?

:)

heh

So you'd like to use rap only when it's specifically credited as such then? :p

that'd work for me :P

(like it was proposed with mini-album)

yep or if there's a unanimous vote

Because funnily that'd exclude pretty much every rap album

you can just leave it as vocals for edge cases

imho

it's probably not as important for rap albums anyway

at least we added the solo attribute even though there's lots of stuff that's all solo

not that I claim to know the slightest thing about actual rap albums :P

it could be a single

or an ep or mini-album :P

nikki: sure, but "solo" is described as "playing a solo *part*", which means an all-solo thing doesn't really apply anyway

I just mean that if you need it to be credited as "rap" to use the attribute, then it'll be weird since almost no rap albums will ever credit the vocalist at all (apart from it being the main AC) and if they do it will be just as vocals, most of the time

But if you don't, then you need to define what rap actually is

you could still argue that if it's all solo, it's just that all of the parts are solo and therefore it's a solo part :P

I like Lotheric's approach.

I'd be fine with just using it for stuff credited as rap and if people who edit rap want to use it, they're welcome to figure out how it should be used and if they don't want to use it, they can continue not using it because it's not credited :P

it can be good to be specific when a track features a rapper and a singer

so you know who raps and who sings

So, what happens with a dancehall track that features a singer and a deejay? :p

I'd like to be able to credit "scratches" as well (not sure how)

right now I use "instrument turntables"

Isn't that what instrument: turntables is for?

You don't credit "string plucking", you credit guitar...

reosarevok_: I understand your logic but in most hip hop album, they often credit it as "scratchs"

It's still the same thing though

you can mix with turntables, you can beat juggle, you can scratch, cut, sample, etc

reosarevok_: If all we get is "rap" I would put both dancehall/reggae toasting and grime rapping under it, btw.

reo is turntable really an instrument though ? it doesn't "make" sounds, it plays them, sounds are made in other ways and recorded

Yeah, and quite often they do something that isn't really scratch but still call it scratch, in my experience :p