#musicbrainz

:)

Was there a betting pool?

blup

paf

boom!

pow!

Is the editor Alfg here under a different name?

not that I'm aware of

Thanks nikki

Do you ever sleep?

I get that a lot :P

I do, it's just that my sleeping pattern refuses to conform to 24 hour days

Same here.

(and I'm hopelessly addicted to the internet)

I'm on a 12 step program for artist sort order corrections, only did one yesterday. Its funny, I see stuff in MB and just want to fix it.

but but

you *should* correct artist sort orders?! soudln't you?

Not me.

what? why not

?

Jon Bon Jovi

1. The guidelines are not crystal clear

2. Unsuppored/undocumented info is easily accepted ..., and then burden of proof to change it is on the editor.

3. To do it propery, you have to research if its their birth name... which takes too much time.

4. Nobody wants Jon Bon Jovi solo albums sorted under "J", while Bon Jovi the group is sorted under "B"

5. Most stuff, including what I am doing, is moving away from sort order.

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oh no :(

fuck it, I'm just going to no-vote these

this is why we don't have new editors

portik: what should I do then

Are they *wrong*?

yes

In which way? (apart from that they should be pseudos which is a 5 seconds change I mean)

"Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Wiki On the Wiki Wiki Activity Random page Videos Photos Chat Top Content Characters Arcs Community Contribute Watchlist Random page Recent changes Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai Image Album Kokoro-Musubi" does look wrong :

:)

heh

Fair enough

ton of cover art on pseudos, apparently some dupes, label relationships, etc.

see yindesu's comment http://musicbrainz.org/edit/23372195

Well, there's no guideline that says data shouldn't be added to pseudos

I know nikki was considering writing one, but right now, adding labels and cover art to them is perfectly allowed

oh

A bit silly IMO

well, OK, I won't no-vote them :/

But...

but it's sad that we're getting more pseudoreleases and not more real releases into the db

Well, sure

But if people can't speak nor write the language...

we need to enlist more japanese users

how's the localization coming along

heh, yeah, agreed, but no idea how

Well, in general it's mostly usable

But I don't think we have anything particularly decent for Japanese

I know nikki was doing some basic things, but

I thought nikki was just translating some 3rd party translators

Oh, so some other person submitted some stuff at some point? Nice

But yeah, I guess that could use more people

nabetaro seems to be the only person there

we should enlist hiro666

Feel free! :) I don't really know any of the JP editors we have

I know a few exist but that's about it

I run into hiro666 from time to time these days

there used to be a japanese editor around whose username was some phrase from the kunka kunka copypasta lol

I don't remember which phrase though so I can't search for them

never mind, here they are http://musicbrainz.org/user/machigaeta_mofumofu...

looks like they've been inactive for a little while

Hate it when recording info clashes between two releases of what seems the same recording

i forget who, tho :)

hmm, it might have been machigaeta_mofumofushitaio actually, not sure.

twitter correlation thanks to them mentioning in a tweet about a release they'd just added to musicbrainz :)

lol, the lines between tracks is hilarious on http://mbjs.kepstin.ca/?release=d8c71c4c-a2bd-4...

Anyone have any comments on http://musicbrainz.org/edit/23383840 ?

As a newbie, seems to me that track should be "Eyes Wide Shut"

hawke_1: this particular recording is different from the one on the soundtrack?

kuno: Yes, it’s a cover.

whether you remove the Eyes Wide Shut thing or not, I wouldn't rename the recording to the work name

hawke_1: is it licensed for this 100 greatest film themes release, or recorded for it?

kuno: Not sure. Silva Screen often features the City of Prague Philharmonic for their releases…it may not have been recorded for it, but…

hawke_1: if the recording is made for this release, it seems more accurate to retain the movie title in the recording.

kuno: It seems strange to me, to list a movie title that just happened to use some work.

if it is licensed, I can understand renaming it to something more generic once it is linked to the other releases on which the recording appears.

Like, I wouldn’t ever call a recording “Beethoven - Symphony no. 9 (Ace Ventura Pet Detective)” just because it happened to be used there.

If it were the actual recording used in the film I could see it, at least it then has some relation to the film.

but this is recorded in a similar context

(in relation to a knock-off soundtrack greatest hits release)

The Allmusic link seems to agree with you, hawke_1

But as is, I think the release is just saying “Waltz from Jazz Suite, the piece that was featured in Eyes Wide Shut” — which is clearly more work-related than recording-related

it would be "the piece that was featured in Eyes Wide Shut" if it was licensed

now it is more "a knock-off recording of music from Eyes Wide Shut which just happens to be this piece"

this is where I'd use my "context" argument. The "Eyes Wide Shut" part makes sense in the context of the tracklist, but is not needed outside it.

+1

It definitely should be on the tracklist

I would actually just call it “Eyes Wide Shut” on the tracklist.

CallerNo6: but it seems wrong to ignore it on the recording if that context affected how the recording was done.

CallerNo6: there are many subtle and non-subtle ways in which a particular recording of a work can differ from other recordigs of that work.

CallerNo6: if this particular recording was performed specifically to be similar to the recording of the work which appears in Eyes Wide Shut, that is a fairly important aspect to the recording.

kuno: I guess what I ask myself is, if this recording were included on another release (where film music wasn't the focus), would it include the film title still?

(but fair point, I can certainly see doing it as you suggest too)

Where is all that extra track title info coming from, anyway?

Old soundtrack style, I think.

See, this is where as a newbie, start smacking my head against the desk, cause we just had a discussion that cover art overrules text on sites.

snartal: It is useful to have the work titles in the tracks, because then you can relate them to works

rather than having to [re-]do the work of tracking down which specific song from the movie it is.

And before we had works at all, even more so.

Right, but same could be said for having the movie title there too.

I wonder if there were more detailed liner notes that listed the works.

If not I'd happily drop them from track titles

I know not everybody agrees, but I think the back cover isn't the last word as far as tracklists go.

Why not?