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      • mumu_
        Ich möchte mich nicht für eine Fehlermeldung anmelden, und mach daher vom Angebot gebrauch mich hier zu melden...
      • Ich nute gerade Musicbrainzp... unter Linux Mint14. Und stelle fest, das ich leider den Optionen Dialog nicht bedienen kann. Die Spalte mit den Beschreibungen läßt sich nicht vergrößern?!
      • Ist das bekannt?
      • nikki
        hmm... welche version von picard?
      • warp
        Mint 14 is based on Ubuntu 12.10, so I would guess the same version Ubuntu ships in 12.10.
      • kepstin-work
        so, 1.0
      • warp
      • mumu_
        nikki: 1.0 zeigt die Übersichtsseite
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      • Freso
        jesus ping?
      • Or any other French speaker?
      • murdos: ? :)
      • nikki
        I think it was http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/PICARD-303 but apparently I'm too slow :/
      • Krystof
        Freso: hello
      • Freso
        Krystof: What does "Juillet a Tahiti" mean? "Juillet of/from Tahiti"?
      • Krystof
        in
      • July in Tahiti
      • well, assuming that it's à Tahiti
      • Freso
        Ah.
      • Krystof
        otherwise it means "July has Tahiti"
      • Freso
        It might be! :D
      • There's no accents on the cover,
      • Krystof
        wow, the power of procrastination. I'm meant to be writing exams; instead I'm speculatively translating French titles on IRC
      • Freso
        But then, there are *no* accents on the cover.
      • nikki
        it is all caps?
      • reosarevok
        Krystof: so you'll write them in a hurry and annoyed and be cruel? :p
      • Freso
        Wait, no, there's one.
      • Krystof
        conventionally in French, you don't put accents on capitals
      • if this is Dream Island and the Amazon listings are accurate (hah), the A is capitalised
      • nikki
        I thought that was jsut because they can't type them
      • Krystof
        it can be a historically-contingent convention
      • reosarevok
        Dunno. There was a time when Spanish kids were taught not do put accents on capitals either
      • Krystof
        now you're going to distract me from my exams to make me find out when the Académie documented the rule
      • reosarevok
        But I'm not sure if it was a real *rule*, or more that teachers saw it wasn't printed and assumed that was the case :p
      • Freso
        Krystof: Does "D.P." mean anything specific? Domain publique?
      • reosarevok
        (at some point the academy was like "meh, this is silly. CAPITALS WITH ACCENTS, guys!"
      • )
      • nikki
        ooh. I managed to install 1.0 and it really is a mess. the 1.1 ppa works fine as far as I can tell, but I'm still too late >_<
      • Krystof
        reosarevok: yeah, france too. "On ne peut que déplorer que l'usage des accents sur les majuscules soit flottant."
      • Freso: no idea, I just play a Frenchman on the Internet
      • context?
      • (I am a French native speaker, but I have lived in Francophone countries for about a total of 8 weeks. YMMV, etc)
      • Freso
        Krystof: It is. :) E.g., "Kava, Aparima vava (Trad) D.P." - Kava is the title, "Aparima vava" seems to be the song/tune type, Trad. is the composer/writer, "D.P." seems to be the copyright notice (e.g., "SACEM P.1986" on the first track).
      • Krystof
        I've never seen it before, sorry
      • Freso
        Krystof: The "D.P." only seems to appear on trad. tunes/songs, hence why I figure it may mean public domain. :)
      • (Also, the cover art on Amazon is wrong - don't upload it.)
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      • CatCat
        adhawkins: "derp.co.uk" or was it.
      • adhawkins
        Ah ok. That's not mine, just one I found for googling an image pastebin
      • CatCat
        aha
      • nikki is pondering proposing something like http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Nikki/Compilation_Relationship_Type (the recording stuff already exists, the release group stuff is what I would be proposing)
      • Freso
        reoafk: Do you know if there's a way to tell worldcat that they have several entities for the same thing?
      • nikki
        I basically want a relationship for saying something like "foo and bar were in this boxset" :P
      • CatCat
        nikki: the latter, very much
      • i agree
      • i wish we had a better way of doing it
      • but yes, a relationship the very least
      • i mean we did this for discs of a release earlier
      • before ngs
      • Freso
        Yeah.
      • nikki
        and since the compilation relationship is basically "recording foo / bar is recording foo and recording bar", then it makes sense to use the same thing for "release group foo / bar is release group foo and release group bar"
      • Freso
        Once we get boxset support proper, relationships like that will help the transition.
      • nikki
        Freso: well, I don't have a problem with them being separate release groups, I just want links between them :P
      • CatCat
        Freso / nikki: at the very least links between them yea
      • nikki
        and I wouldn't want release groups for boxsets to vanish, I'd rather have a boxset release group type
      • CatCat nods
      • CatCat
        and and oh god, some sort of edit to split discs up into several releases, especially for releases that were incorrectly merged in ngs
      • a reverse merge
      • hmm
      • if we had that, merges (that didn't smelt together discs, just appended mediums) could be an auto edit too
      • hmm
      • Freso
        CatCat: NES \o/
      • nikki
        merges are still destructive though, even the append ones lose all the stuff like release name, release artist, barcode, country, etc
      • CatCat
        i guess "merge" not smelt, but i am so used ot use the word "merge" for merge type dits that it doesn't mean "put togheter so you can't tell it was two distinct things before" to me anymore
      • lose all the stuff like release name, release artist, barcode, country, etc <-- this is a problem i think
      • Freso: yes
      • i don't know
      • Freso
        Again, NES \o/
      • One of the features of NES will be allowing to undo merges.
      • CatCat
        git or whatever. the idea of ahavign "editions" or "versions" were yo ucan pick and choose of changed history and have the bits that are correct/seen as most correct /whatever
      • i am startign to like this idea more and more
      • Freso
        CatCat: What does git have to do with this? :p
      • nikki
        NES is based on git
      • Freso
        Nice.
      • CatCat
        night199uk: haha, so i didn't remember completely wrong
      • erh
      • nikki:
      • wtf some other perosn with nitab
      • but when we implement nes, we *need* to also look at editing in general, be able to edit *just* a track, or *just* a title, or go i nand change only this disc title without havign to load the editor for editing everything
      • only load an editior for everything, whne one *wants* to edit everything
      • same with relationship editor
      • Freso
        That isn't specifically tied to NES though.
      • CatCat
        no, i am jsut saying
      • Freso
        AFAIK.
      • CatCat
        since edits and *doing edits* are linked after all
      • nikki thinks the problem is more that the release editor is just too damn slow in general
      • CatCat politely disagrees with nikki
      • it is definitly damn slow and that is a part of a problem
      • nikki
        as opposed to impolitely? :P
      • CatCat
        but i also think that beign able to just click "edit title" or "add release date" or whatever needs to be possible
      • nikki
        but to do that you need hundreds of edit links everywhere
      • nikki doesn't really want to go back to that
      • CatCat
        nikki: yes, because you're not just talkign aout of you ass, yo uactually know a lot about mb and it's inner workings
      • been here as much as me
      • nikki: then make it optinoal, sure no problem
      • nikki
        I like the idea of clicking edit and editing stuff, I just dislike the sloooow implementation of it
      • heh, options...
      • CatCat
        and I never saw a problem with "houndreds of edit links everywhere"
      • the contrary for me
      • kepstin-work wouldn't mind small discrete edit links everywhere, possibly using icons and only showing up on hover?
      • i miss them
      • ehm...
      • ok.. deprends on the implementation
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      • CatCat hates the idea of usign hover over only icon representations of text, but damn, is so missign the ability he'd settel for that :o
      • oh hey OT. was the "end of the year" thingy report published?
      • you know with like "the guy with most edits" and how many rels are there now wtc
      • etc*
      • hm, why is there two artist [no artist] and [nature sounds]?
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      • what
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      • Freso
        There should only be one of each.
      • CatCat
        yea i dropped out for some reason and i don't know what yo urefer oo sorry
      • kepstin-work
        I would change update them to Paramahansa Yogananda, but i'm not that familiar with indian culture :)
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      • jesus2099
        Freso: D.P. is indeed domaine public :)
      • CatCat has no idea
      • kepstin-work
        'the voice of' sounds like someone just copied directly off the release rather than used just the artist name
      • CatCat
        alright
      • jesus2099
        Freso: not domain publique ;p
      • any spanish knows what could be D.R. ?
      • maybe public domain in spanish ?
      • CatCat
        domain republic?
      • :P
      • jesus2099
        Dominican Republic then CatCat :à)
      • CatCat
      • jesus2099
        CatCat: what is SRI ? like sir maybe ?
      • BTW CatCat the only release there is PURE SHIT http://musicbrainz.org/release/74a2bcec-ba5f-4f...
      • looks like total failure that could be deleted http://musicbrainz.org/user/saura/edits
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      • Freso
        jesus: Who's talking about "D.R."?
      • Oh, you were. :D
      • Right.
      • jesus: And what do I know about French. :p