#musicbrainz

function1: at least 24 hours.

(the cleanup script waits until at least 24 hours after the last edit affecting the artist has closed before deleting the artist)

wish it was longer

reosarevok: Certainly seems like a small ensemble.

function1: surely 24 h is enough time to find somewhere to use the artist on, or a URL to link it to?

(I mean, I assume you found the artist somewhere :) )

yeah i have to add 50+ artists for this box set

maybe i want add the release later

you can add artists in the release editor as you add the disks.

kepstin-work: But that doesn't allow you to set artist type, start/end dates, country or gender.

well, you can do that later.

Sure, but if you do it when you add them, you don't forget or otherwise miss any. :)

true :)

i was advised to enter artists first. also, what Freso said. once i had to re-enter everything 3 times because of server errors. long release, ended up adding mediums as separate edits

i.e. I have the release editor open in one tab, and add artists in another tab, then paste the mbids into the release editor :)

Yep, that's how I do it too

that mbid pasting feature graduating from being a userscript to being in the server proper was nice :)

reosarevok: That brings us back to the question of: when it’s an ensemble taken from some larger group, is that a new artist or is it still the larger group (I mean, we probably wouldn’t make a separate artist if the second violinist was off sick that day for some recording, even if we knew). The other place I saw this is stuff like “The ladies of the ambrosian chorus”

Well, it depends I guess

Most cases I've seen that, it is a proper subgroup they use more than once

But yeah, I wouldn't create a new artist for stuff like "string section" or "women of the choir"

we need a new artist-artist ar for 'is a sub/super-group of" then :)

h!p :P

akb48...

yes, those other cases :)

But those are actual *groups*

AKB48 Team A is a subgroup of AKB48

(same as, for example, "Die 12 Cellisten der Berliner Philharmoniker")

they're up to, what, 4 teams plus the training members in AKB48 now?

(which are an established entity that performs as itself, as opposed to "the women sections of our choir since this is a work for women choir")

ah, no , just 3 teams :)

hm

but there's team a, k, b and 4

they seem to have dropped team 4 now

it's not listed on their site, at least.

but still, the artist exists in mb :P

well, I guess it should be marked as ended :)

man, their site is very, very pink.

Can anyone find a decent size of this image http://www.multitraxmusic.com/eu/images/product... ?

Replacing small with big, large, orig, original, thumb, and simply removing it doesn't give a large image. Neither Google Images nor TinEye yield anything either.

what release is it?

nikki: "Funk, Vol. 3" or "Funk / Hip Hop, Vol. 3" - it isn't entered yet.

nikki: http://www.multitraxmusic.com/eu/pnahafahik.asp is the source of the image and all information about it that appears to exist online (until I finish entering it into MB).

nikki: https://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/954a00ae-c... :)

Also, man, Dutch and German sometimes look alike. I could've sworn the text on the medium was German, but actually reading it, "voorbehouden" doesn't look very German. :p

I did find http://www.worldcat.org/title/funk-vol-3-da-rap...

maybe you can go on a little trip :P

Well, I already have a copy of the cover here, it's just all plastered with library stickers. :)

ah

Plus, no scanner.

find one? :P

Meh. I'll never get around to uploading it either way. I don't want to do all the post-processing. :|

Anyway, worldcat.org looks neat.

didn't LordSputnik say he likes doing that?

It should couple up their "Linked Data" with MB data though. :p

Freso: worldcat can be linked from MB btw, it's in the otherdbs thing

nikki: I did, but then I saw the pictures to be processed :P

reosarevok: Nice. I'll do that. \o/

dutch = german spoken with a mouth full of marbles

Hm. I just added a new Work for the Aerosmith+Run-DMC version of Walk This Way, but that one really isn't much changed from the Aerosmith version and certainly not enough to warrant a new version by normal standards.

However, it seems like all subsequent covers are of the Aerosmith+Run-DMC version rather than the Aerosmith-only version, and we don't really have a way to indicate that apart from through Work relationships, do we?

Anybody here know Swedish?

Freso: Why would they be separate works?

how much swedish?

hawke_1: To indicate cover of cover relationships.

Freso: “cover of cover”?

hawke_1: Did you read what I wrote? :)

nikki: Enough to add credit ARs from http://www.naxosmusiclibrary.com/sharedfiles/bo... (page 3)

Freso: Yes.

hawke_1: Aerosmith releases "Walk This Way" in 197x, then they do a collaboration with Run-D.M.C.

So far so good.

Freso: Yep.

However.

Following this, there are at least two covers of the Run-DMC+Aerosmith version; Sum 41+some rappers and Sugababes+Girls something.

And thus, those two would be "cover of cover".

hawke_1: anything in particular? it doesn't look all that complicated

I imagine Freso can understand it :P

Oh, yeah, I'm down with Swedish. Sorry hawke_1, didn't see you asking. I was deep into my own little thinking zone box.

hawke_1: What do you need translated?

hawke_1: "Arrangemang" = arrangement, "instrumentering" = instrumentation, "damkör" is some kind of choir, "flöjt" is flute (most likely a transverse one), "oboe" is oboe, "soloklarinett" is a solo clarinet, "klarinet" is "clarinet", ...

Want me to continue? :p

is slagverk drums?

Percussion.

Trommer or trummer or something would be drums.

ah

"Slagverk" is literally "things for hitting"

yeah

I assumed it was probably related to schlagzeug

"Inspelad" = recorded, in Hemsjö Church and Artisten in Göteborg.

mixad - mixed, mastrad - mastered

Omslag - cover

is damkör a female choir?

Ah, yes, probably. :)

"Damekor"

("Dam" in Danish is a pond, so I don't always catch that at first.)

ah, heh

"1997 bildade Leif Strand en sångensemble som just nu består av 16 kvinnor."

"[In] 1997 Leif Strand (started? built?) a singing ensemble that currently (lit., "right now") consists of 16 women."

LMAO - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYslhL71k1M

hawke_1: I closed the PDF now.

hawke_1: Please ask for specific words/phrases you need help with. I think I covered a good deal here: ^

VxJasonxV: ping

pong

what's up?

heya

thanks again for hooking us up with the private github repos.

absolutely

do you think there would be a chance to get a few more?

I'm not sure. The information I used at the time was pretty firm.

I gave the plan I could, and the guide said if the non-profit needed more they only have to pay the difference.

well, if you dont mind asking, that would be lovely.

ah.

ok.

great, thanks!

Freso: Thanks for the help, that should do it.

Freso: instrumentering → Instrumentation, as in “arranged instrumentation”?

what’s “spår”?

hawke_1: I don't know what the "instrumentation" relationship means, but I'm guessing it's that.

hawke_1: Context? I'm guessing "track".

looks like track to me too

k

in track lists with submovements (e.g. sections of the Gloria in a mass), with the style IIa, IIb etc, does one skip IIi?

Krystof: I wouldn't...

bah, modern computers are two power-efficient. 4 quad-core boxes under my desk, and my legs are still chilly.

er, s/two/too/

clearly not enough!

hmm. -18°C out, with a low tonight of -22°C.